Photometric and Radiometric measurement concepts

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SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on the concepts of photometric and radiometric measurements using electronic sensors, specifically CCD and CMOS technologies. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the spectral response of sensors to convert analog or digital outputs into relevant quantities such as wavelength, irradiance, and illuminance. Key methods include multiplying the input radiation by the detector sensitivity and applying the eye's spectral response curve for photometric calculations. The conversation highlights the need for specific formulae and references to effectively utilize sensor outputs in designing light meters for various illuminance measurements.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of CCD (Charged Coupled Devices) and CMOS photo diode array technologies
  • Knowledge of spectral response curves and their significance in sensor measurements
  • Familiarity with photometric and radiometric concepts, including illuminance and irradiance
  • Basic principles of analog and digital signal processing in sensor outputs
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  • Research the spectral response curves of specific sensors to understand their measurement capabilities
  • Explore formulae for converting sensor outputs to photometric and radiometric quantities
  • Study the eye's spectral response curve and its application in photometric calculations
  • Investigate design principles for light meters that measure photopic and scotopic illuminance
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Engineers, researchers, and developers involved in sensor technology, optical measurements, and light meter design will benefit from this discussion.

Aditya Mittal
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Hello,
I am trying to understand the concepts of photometric and radiometric measurements in an electronic sensor. Various photo sensors based on CCD (Charged Coupled Devices) or CMOS photo diode array technology are available in the market for measurements in Visible Spectrum. Now I want to know if there are any generic formulae or functions available to convert the sensor output (analog/digital) into relevant photometric or radiometric quantity such as wavelength or irradiance or Illuminance etc.
 
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Without knowing the spectral response of those devices to the whole radiometric interval that you want to measure, I don't think that's possible...
 
You mean to say the graphical representation between Wavelength (nm) - x-axis and Responsivity (A/W) - y axis. This information is normally given in data sheet for a particular sensor. So how do I use that information to get the parameters that I need? I have also attached the sample spectral response curve for a typical sensor.
 

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If I understand it correctly, that sensor detects in eight bands from 400 to 700 nm. Between those extreme wavelengths there are gaps with no detection. And, for wavelengths longer than 700 nm, the sensor simply doesn't work at all. The black line in the graphic is probably the transmittance of the sensor's window...
 
NTW said:
If I understand it correctly, that sensor detects in eight bands from 400 to 700 nm. Between those extreme wavelengths there are gaps with no detection. And, for wavelengths longer than 700 nm, the sensor simply doesn't work at all. The black line in the graphic is probably the transmittance of the sensor's window...

I don't think so. I think the black curve is the sensor's spectral response. The colored lines look like specific filters that are used when you want to view only a specific part of the spectrum.
 
Aditya Mittal said:
Now I want to know if there are any generic formulae or functions available to convert the sensor output (analog/digital) into relevant photometric or radiometric quantity such as wavelength or irradiance or Illuminance etc.

There are. I'll try to find my book on astronomical image processing and see what it says about this. I'm willing to bet it has it in there.
 
Aditya Mittal said:
You mean to say the graphical representation between Wavelength (nm) - x-axis and Responsivity (A/W) - y axis. This information is normally given in data sheet for a particular sensor. So how do I use that information to get the parameters that I need? I have also attached the sample spectral response curve for a typical sensor.

Calculating the radiometric quantities (W received, etc) is straightforward from the graph- You start by specifying the (spectral) input radiation, multiply by the (spectral) detector sensitivity and you're basically done.

Calculating the photometric quantities proceeds similarly, but you also multiply the eye's spectral response curve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photometry_(optics)#mediaviewer/File:Luminosity.png) to the above calculation to convert watts into lumens.

Is that what you want to do?
 
@Andy Resnick - Yes that is true that I want to measure radiometric and photometric quantities from the sensor output. The output of the sensor is preferentially in Volts or Ampere and at most it could be an input to an ADC to get the digital output which can be read by a micro controller section in the circuitry. Now I am still unable to utilize that sensor output.
@Drakkith - It would really be of great help to me if there are any such formulae available in any of the text references that you might have.
@NTW - The response posted by '@Drakkith' is correct to your comment.

In general I want to design a light meter for photopic and scotopic illuminance, EVE factor, luminous color, color rendering index, luminous spectrum. For that I need to first focus on sensor interface and how the output from sensor could be utilized for this.
Also let me know in case you would like to have any other inputs from my end regarding this.
 
If you don't have access to the spectral content of your illumination and all you have is the voltage/current output of the sensor, there is no way to perform your calculation.
 

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