Measuring Infrared Irradiance for Solar Research

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around measuring infrared irradiance for solar research, specifically focusing on the feasibility of separating infrared rays above 1200 nm from sunlight for solar power generation. Participants explore measurement techniques for quantifying the power of the separated infrared light, considering both theoretical and practical aspects of the setup.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant discusses the challenge of measuring infrared light above 1200 nm, suggesting the use of interference coatings and waveguides to separate these wavelengths from sunlight.
  • Another participant proposes a two-step measurement process to determine the efficiency of the solar cell by measuring total irradiance before and after inserting filters.
  • A participant clarifies that the solar cell cannot measure infrared light beyond 1200 nm, indicating the need for alternative measurement devices.
  • Suggestions for measuring devices include bolometers and thermopiles, with a participant providing links to resources and products related to irradiance measurement.
  • Participants express interest in exploring the suggested resources for further information on measuring infrared power.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific measurement method, with multiple suggestions and approaches being discussed. The discussion remains open-ended regarding the best technique for measuring infrared irradiance.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their current understanding of optics and measurement devices, indicating a reliance on external resources for further exploration.

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I'm working on research into the feasibility of separating out the infrared rays above 1200 nm in sunlight for solar power generation. Since silicon cells do not effectively harness these wavelengths, we are experimenting with using interference coatings and a wave guide to separate these waves out.

Since we'll need to measure the impact that this separation will have on the available power, I'm wondering how we could measure the power that is separated out? The visible light can simply be measured with the silicon cell, but how can the infrared light be measured? Given our dimensions, I'd expect ~25 W of infrared light leaving through a 40 cm^2 opening. This would mean getting an output 6250 W/m^2.

Ideally I'd be looking to measure either the irradiance or the total power of the infrared light exiting the waveguide. I'd rather measure this directly if possible. I looked at using a pyranometer for this, but our irradiance seems to be too high for this and I'm not very familiar with optics in general.

Anyone have any ideas for measuring devices?
 
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You can measure in two steps: measure total irradiance (A) entering your cell, then insert the filters and repeat the measurement (B). Your solar cell then sees the fraction (B)/(A).

Finally you can measure the power generated by the solar cell, (C), giving the efficiency as (C)/(B) for the wavelengths used.
 
Oh sorry, I wasn't specific about the configuration. So the infrared and visible would be split such that they travel down different funnels.

The solar cell actually cannot react to wavelengths beyond 1200 nm, so it would not be capable of measuring this infrared light. Thanks for your help though.
 
SIM77 said:
Oh sorry, I wasn't specific about the configuration. So the infrared and visible would be split such that they travel down different funnels.

The solar cell actually cannot react to wavelengths beyond 1200 nm, so it would not be capable of measuring this infrared light. Thanks for your help though.

I was suggesting that you use another type of measuring device (such as a bolometer), then measure a well-defined flux with and then without the filter.
 
Ah, well that makes sense. I was actually unfamiliar with bolometers, it sounds promising though. Do you have any other recommendations for measuring infrared power?
 
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Interesting, I'll have to look through those resources
 

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