Photon & Lighting: What Happens After Production?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of photons produced by lightning and their behavior after production. Participants explore concepts related to the movement of photons, their absorption, and the relationship between photons and charged particles, with a focus on both theoretical and conceptual aspects.

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  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what happens to photons after they are produced, suggesting they may not be visible if their energy is lost.
  • Another participant asserts that photons continue to move away from the lightning strike at the speed of light.
  • Some participants clarify the distinction between photons and charged particles, noting that charged particles in lightning produce photons.
  • There is a discussion about photons ceasing to exist once absorbed by matter, with the energy being transferred to the absorbing entity.
  • Participants mention that all matter emits photons continuously, and the energy distribution of these photons depends on the surface temperature and material properties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the behavior of photons, with some agreeing on the absorption aspect while others focus on the movement and production of photons. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of photon energy loss and the relationship between photons and charged particles.

Contextual Notes

Some statements depend on specific definitions of energy and absorption, and there are unresolved nuances regarding the behavior of photons in different contexts.

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Hello everyone!

It's pouring with rain and the thunder is roaring. I was sitting outside watching the lighting and I had a strange thought come to me, the lighting is producing photons correct? What happends to photons after they are produced? Do they keep on moving through things just not lit up because there heat is gone?

What happends to photons after a certain period of time? - This wasn't the right place to post this, but I'm not sure where else to post it.
 
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They keep moving away from the location of the lightning strike at the speed of light.
 
Open Mind - I think you're mixing up photons and charged particles. In the lightning strike, the movement of charged particles is occurring. This then gives off photons.
 
BruceW said:
Open Mind - I think you're mixing up photons and charged particles. In the lightning strike, the movement of charged particles is occurring. This then gives off photons.

Ahh that makes more sense, appreciate the feedback :]. So what happens to photons in any case once they lose there heat/energy? Are the a black particle o.o? Don't know much about light sorry.
 
An Open Mind said:
Ahh that makes more sense, appreciate the feedback :]. So what happens to photons in any case once they lose there heat/energy? Are the a black particle o.o? Don't know much about light sorry.

Here you go, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon

Photons do not lose energy until they are absorbed by matter. For example, when the light from a lightbulb hits your retina, a molecule in your eye absorbs the photon which causes the molecule to change shape and activate the first process of vision. The photon is now GONE. It no longer exists. The ENERGY of the photon still exists, as it was used to change the shape of the molecule and is now contained within it. Energy and mass cannot be created or destroyed, however matter and light can.
 
An Open Mind said:
Hello everyone!

It's pouring with rain and the thunder is roaring. I was sitting outside watching the lighting and I had a strange thought come to me, the lighting is producing photons correct? What happens to photons after they are produced? Do they keep on moving through things just not lit up because there heat is gone?

What happens to photons after a certain period of time? - This wasn't the right place to post this, but I'm not sure where else to post it.

Once a photon is absorbed, it ceases to exist. The photon's energy content becomes part of the kinetic energy of whatever absorbed the photon.

To put this into perspective, not only is the lightning emitting photons, so is the rain the atmosphere, the clouds, the landscape and you. Even as you read this your left elbow (and all other surface areas of your body) is emitting photons that are traveling at the speed of light. All matter emits photons more or less continually (at human scales, at least).

These photons will have a distribution of energies/wavelengths/frequencies over a range of values. The mean value of this range is a function of the surface temperature and the nature of the surface material.

P. S. Don't worry too much whether a particular forum is the right place to post a question. If you have a question, ask it! If it isn't the right forum, it will be move to the right forum, and nobody is going to cloud up and rain on you.
 
klimatos said:
Once a photon is absorbed, it ceases to exist. The photon's energy content becomes part of the kinetic energy of whatever absorbed the photon.

To put this into perspective, not only is the lightning emitting photons, so is the rain the atmosphere, the clouds, the landscape and you. Even as you read this your left elbow (and all other surface areas of your body) is emitting photons that are traveling at the speed of light. All matter emits photons more or less continually (at human scales, at least).

These photons will have a distribution of energies/wavelengths/frequencies over a range of values. The mean value of this range is a function of the surface temperature and the nature of the surface material.

P. S. Don't worry too much whether a particular forum is the right place to post a question. If you have a question, ask it! If it isn't the right forum, it will be move to the right forum, and nobody is going to cloud up and rain on you.

Ha I love the way you write :p, thanks for the feedback. I can't believe I didn't think of that my self, that everything we can SEE is emmitting photons, so much reflection omg we would be blind if the matter didn't obsorb most of the photons.
 

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