Physics -- deriving Planck's constant

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The discussion focuses on deriving Planck's constant through an experiment involving LED lights of varying wavelengths. Participants clarify that the photoelectric effect, which involves the release of electrons, is distinct from the operation of LEDs. The key takeaway is that by plotting a graph of voltage against frequency, the gradient of the resulting line will yield Planck's constant. Energy is measured in electron volts (eV), which is essential for calculations in this context.

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  • Understanding of the photoelectric effect and its distinction from LED operation.
  • Familiarity with the relationship between voltage, frequency, and energy in the context of LEDs.
  • Basic graphing skills to plot voltage against frequency.
  • Knowledge of electron volts (eV) as a unit of energy measurement.
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hello,

im trying to do this homework, where i have to derive Plancks constant using an experiment where we used some LED lights of different wavelengths to work out voltage at different wavelengths. From that i worked out the frequency and ekmax of the electrons given out. however i have no idea how to derive Plancks constant from this and my teacher was rushing everything so no one understood anything, i don't know the reason behind why we did the experiment in that way.

why did LED lights light up and isn't the photoelectric effect the release of electrons? so why were we seeing whther the LED was lighting up or not at different resistaances?

please help thanks
 
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Is there some way you might be able to provide us with a scan of the relevant sections of your lab manual?
 
this is as level, there is no lab manual
 
we need to plot a graph and the gradient of that graph will be Plancks constant
 
Energy can be measured in electron volts (eV) where e is the electron charge, if that helps.
 
I know I am really late to answer this question, but it might help others. I have attached an image, so refer to that. Do ping if you can't understand or want more information :)
planck's constant.jpeg
 
YungSung said:
... have to derive Plancks constant using an experiment where we used some LED lights of different wavelengths to work out voltage at different wavelengths. From that i worked out the frequency and ekmax of the electrons given out.
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why did LED lights light up and isn't the photoelectric effect the release of electrons? so why were we seeing whther the LED was lighting up or not at different resistaances?
The photoelectric effect is a process in which incident photons knock out electrons from a conductor's surface or from atoms. This is not the process that occurs in LEDs.

In a (very loose) sense, light production in LEDs is the reverse of the photoelectric effect.

An LED lights up when a minimum voltage is applied (which could be the result of, for example, changing resistance in your experiment).

Have you tried Googling (or whatever you use) "Planck's constant from LEDs"? There is loads of information, including YouTube videos.

And "plancks" should of course be "Planck's"!
 

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