Physics for Scientists & Engineers by Tipler & Mosca

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The discussion revolves around the textbook "Physics for Scientists and Engineers" by Tipler & Mosca, specifically addressing the absence of certain chapters in the modern physics section of the book. Participants explore the implications of this missing content and share their experiences with different versions of the textbook.

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  • One participant notes that the modern physics section is listed in the table of contents but is missing from their copy of the book.
  • Another participant, who does not own the book, suggests that the absence of chapters may be a printing error and shares a personal experience of exchanging a different textbook due to missing pages.
  • A participant speculates whether the missing chapters are due to the specific version of the book, mentioning that there are multiple volumes and editions, some of which may not include modern physics content.
  • Another participant confirms that their older version of the book has a different structure, with some versions containing fewer chapters in modern physics, indicating variability among editions.
  • One participant clarifies that there are two contents sections in their copy, one brief and one detailed, with the detailed version omitting the missing chapters.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the presence of the modern physics chapters in different editions of the textbook. There is no consensus on whether the missing chapters are an error or a feature of specific versions.

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Participants reference different editions and formats of the textbook, indicating that the structure and content may vary significantly. The discussion highlights the potential for printing errors and the importance of verifying with other copies.

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"Physics for Scientists & Engineers" by Tipler & Mosca

I don't know if anyone here owns the textbook "Physics for Scientists and Engineers" 6th edition by Paul Tipler and Gene Mosca, I'm using it for my 1st year physics course at durham.
In it there are serveral sections including "Modern Physics: Quantum mechanics, Reletivity, and the Structure of Matter" in this section there are numerous relevant chapters with associated chapter numbers but no page numbers (unlike the other chapters). It's the last section in the book so i looked in the area after the penultimate section and discovered it was missing.

Is it supposed to be? I couldn't find it in a different part of the book.
The section breakdown was presented before the full contents, this section also cannot be found in the full contents.

Does anyone else own this book and find the same section missing? Or can anyone tell me why it doesn't exist.
 
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I don't have the book as I used Serway at Newcastle, but I suspect its not supposed to be like that. If nobody else confirms that on here, i'd take it back to the book shop where they can compare it to another copy and perhaps exchange it. I once had a copy of Turton's 'The Physics of Solids, and the back half of the book had every other double page missing. I took it back and got it exchanged for a complete book.

I guess that this occasionally happens at the printers.
 
I assume you mean those chapters are listed in the table of contents, but are not actually in your copy of the book. Do you have the paper-bound version that comes in three volumes? Volume 1 is classical mechanics, volume 2 is electricity and magnetism and optics, and volume 3 is modern physics. If I remember correctly (I don't have my copies at hand here at home), each volume has a summary table of contents for the whole series, even though it actually contains only part of the series. Maybe there's a combined version of volumes 1 and 2 that similarly includes a summary table of contents for volume 3.
 
I have an older version of Tipler. In the front there is a table that shows a few different printings: The Full version has 6 chapters of modern physics at the end. The standard version (my version) has two chapters of modern physics. Then there are two volumes printed separately that do not have any modern physics in them.

So it pretty much follows what JTBell said. My copy didn't list a third volume though.
 
jtbell said:
I assume you mean those chapters are listed in the table of contents, but are not actually in your copy of the book. Do you have the paper-bound version that comes in three volumes? Volume 1 is classical mechanics, volume 2 is electricity and magnetism and optics, and volume 3 is modern physics. If I remember correctly (I don't have my copies at hand here at home), each volume has a summary table of contents for the whole series, even though it actually contains only part of the series. Maybe there's a combined version of volumes 1 and 2 that similarly includes a summary table of contents for volume 3.

Well there's 2 contents' one is more brief and names the missing chapters in it, the other is more detailed and does not contain the chapters.
I do not have the paper-bound one, I have one rather large hard-back book about 1200-1300 pages.
There is only 8 chapters (1 part) missing in a total of 41 chapters (6 parts) (including said missing chapters)
 

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