Physics Lab: Negative Energy Loss on Roller-Coaster Track

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The discussion revolves around a physics lab focused on the conservation of energy in a roller-coaster track scenario, specifically addressing the phenomenon of negative energy loss observed in the data collected during the experiment.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the reasons behind the observed negative energy loss, questioning whether it is due to experimental error, friction, or other factors. Some express concern about the accuracy of the data and the implications of energy gain in the system.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing insights about the role of friction and potential experimental errors. There is recognition of the complexity of the situation, and multiple interpretations of the data are being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of data accuracy and the potential for experimental error, as well as the inherent limitations of real-world measurements compared to ideal conditions.

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Homework Statement


We recently did a lab in my physics class where we looked at the conservation of energy of a ball on a roller-coaster track.

We got the data as seen in the picture below
http://tinypic.com/r/168zx2s/7

the question now is why is there negative energy loss, is this energy loss neglible or is there a reason for it?

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only real thing i could think that could cause this is imprecise data, but i doubt that to be the case
 
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The loss is due to kinetic and rolling friction. On an ideal frictionless track, there would be no loss in mechanical energy (and neither would the ball roll, it would slide). But in the real world, frictionless surfaces do not exist, so there will always be some energy loss due to the work done by friction, such losses showing up mostly as heat and sound energy (energy cannot ever be lost, rather, it is just transformed to different forms). In your case, the loss in mechanical energy is about 5%, which shows up as heat and sound energy, mostly.
Edit: some of the loss may also be due to experimental error
 
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i understand that part, but my main concern is why is there an increase in energy or in other terms negative energy loss
 
Oh, I see there are a few instances at the beginning where energy is gained. Ideally, the initial mechanical energy of 0.0999 should be the total energy throughout the trip. Friction, in the general form of heat and sound energy, cause mechanical energy losses, and experimental error (there must be some) can also cause apparent losses. Mechanical energy is gained if energy is added to the system (maybe you blew on it?), or, more likely, it is due to experimental error. Is your data actually accurate to 4 significant figures?
 

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