Physics of sound applied to instruments

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The discussion revolves around identifying the generator, resonator, and radiator for musical instruments, specifically the trumpet, clarinet, and piano. Participants explore how sound is produced and transmitted in these instruments.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to define the roles of the generator, resonator, and radiator in the context of different instruments. Questions arise about the application of textbook definitions to specific instruments, and there is a suggestion to investigate the construction of the clarinet for insights.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on investigating the instruments further, including looking at online resources and asking musicians for practical insights. There is an ongoing exploration of how the resonator functions in the trumpet, with specific questions about whether it is the air inside or the tubes.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with musical instruments and physics, with some indicating a lack of musical experience. There is a mention of the need for further clarification on the roles of components in the piano, suggesting that not all information is fully understood yet.

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Homework Statement


what would the generator, resonator and radiator be for a trumpet, clarinet and piano?


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The Attempt at a Solution


A generator initiates a vibration, a resonator vibrates at the resonant frequency, and a radiator projects the vibrations into surrounding air.
 
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So, do you have any ideas for what the answers might be?
 
Stonebridge said:
So, do you have any ideas for what the answers might be?

If I did, why would I bother asking? I found those definitions in my textbook, but I don't really understand how they apply to certain instruments.
 
How about taking a look at one of them for a start
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarinet#Construction
the basic design should give you a reasonable idea.
Check out what the reed does, what the main tube does, and what the bell at the end does.
Use wiki for the other two instruments or any other internet source.
Do you know anyone who plays any of these?
 
Stonebridge said:
How about taking a look at one of them for a start
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarinet#Construction
the basic design should give you a reasonable idea.
Check out what the reed does, what the main tube does, and what the bell at the end does.
Use wiki for the other two instruments or any other internet source.
Do you know anyone who plays any of these?

thank you. I shall look at that. sorry, I don't play any instruments and am not very musical/ good at physics. ummm... my friend plays the trumpet, so I'll ask her about that.
 
That's a good idea to ask your friend about the trumpet. Actually observing one being played will show you a lot more than I can describe here.
What you should find is that the resonator and radiator for the trumpet and clarinet are very similar. The sound generators are different. Ask your friend how she generates the sound. (There's no reed to help!)
As far as the piano goes, this is very different. Inside the piano are a lot of metal strings that are struck by hammers. The whole thing is enclosed in a large wooden box! I'm sure your school has a piano somewhere that you could have a look at; and look inside.
If you're still not sure about the piano, come back here and ask again.
 
thank you so much :) you really have helped me!
 
hi, stonebridge. sorry to bother you, but I was wondering whether the resonator for a trumpet is the air inside? or the tubes?

thanks
 
chem_is_lovex said:
hi, stonebridge. sorry to bother you, but I was wondering whether the resonator for a trumpet is the air inside? or the tubes?

thanks

It's the actual air inside that resonates/vibrates. This applies to all wind instruments.
 
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ok. thanks :)
 

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