Physics PhD in USA with a Master's Degree?

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The discussion centers around the process and considerations for students from Europe who have completed a Master's degree and wish to pursue a PhD in the USA. It explores the typical academic pathways, admission requirements, and potential challenges faced by these students.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that in the USA, Master's level education is often integrated with Doctorate programs, raising questions about the transition for European students.
  • One participant suggests that having a Master's degree may provide an advantage in admissions for international students.
  • It is mentioned that students may be required to take additional courses, but some could be exempted based on prior coursework if grades are satisfactory.
  • Another participant recalls that certain schools allow students to attempt qualifying exams immediately if they feel adequately prepared.
  • A personal account describes the process of transferring credits from a German Diplom to a US PhD program, including the need for additional coursework and the experience of preparing for qualifying exams.
  • Networking at conferences and workshops is advised as a strategy for finding potential PhD opportunities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the specifics of the transition process, including the recognition of foreign degrees and the requirements for coursework and exams. There is no consensus on the best approach or the uniformity of experiences across different institutions.

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Limitations include the variability in recognition of foreign degrees, differences in program requirements across universities, and the subjective nature of preparedness for qualifying exams.

Who May Find This Useful

Students from Europe considering a PhD in the USA, academic advisors, and faculty involved in graduate admissions may find this discussion relevant.

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Normally students in America start a PhD degree after their undergrad, since there the so-called "Master level education" is glued together to the "Doctorate" (correct me if I'm wrong!).

So what is the usual track for students from Europe who have done their Master degrees in Europe but would like to do a PhD in America? Do they apply to the usual programmes? If so, what do they do about the (two year) overlap?
 
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As far as I can tell, that is right. Foreigners with msc degrees may even have an edge against foreigners without msc's as far as admissions go.

You'll probably still be required to take some courses, but on some grad school pages I've seen you can be exempted from taking compulsory courses if you can show you've taken them before with a decent enough grade. If there's a qual you'll still be required to take it though, and the pGRE is still required if the department requires it.
 
If I recall correctly, certain schools allow one to attempt to pass the quals right off the bat. If your preparation is good enough to let you do that, then why not try look into such options?

Also, ask around at your institute (PITP, yeah?) and see what people who went on for PhDs did.
 
I got a Diplom (~Master equivalent) in Germany and went on to the US to get a PhD.

There was some paperwork to get credits for courses taken in Germany (which of course were not 100% equivalent), and I had to take maybe 3 classes to complete the compulsory coursework. For 2 out of 3 I got a deal that I could take a more advanced class instead. If I complete that successfully, then I have shown that I know the (required) basic stuff. Completing the PhD took almost exactly 3 years from the time I arrived in the US.

I had direct contact via e-mail with my future PhD adviser before leaving Germany. Getting things sorted out, incl. visa etc. took something like 4 months.

I had to take the qual. The qual took about a 2 months of serious preparation working through copies of old exams. I squeezed through the classical part with a good portion of luck but had no trouble with the modern part.

My advice: If you have done practical work for your masters, try to make contact with profs at conferences and workshops. Ask them directly if they need grad students.
 

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