Physics research experience high school

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around how a high school student can gain research experience in physics, particularly through mentorship or opportunities at local universities. Participants explore various avenues for obtaining such experience, including direct outreach to professors and summer research programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to gain research experience and questions whether it is reasonable to email professors about mentorship opportunities.
  • Another participant encourages reaching out to professors, suggesting that they are likely to respond positively, provided they are not preoccupied with other commitments.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that professors may ignore emails from high school students due to the time commitment involved in mentoring and the limited utility of high school students as research assistants.
  • Some participants recommend being upfront in emails about one's background in math and physics and suggest reading relevant papers to demonstrate interest and knowledge.
  • There is mention of established summer research programs at institutions like MIT, NIH, and NASA specifically designed for high school students, which could be viable alternatives.
  • One participant shares their personal experience of emailing numerous professors with limited success, advising persistence despite potential lack of responses.
  • Concerns are raised about the competitive nature of summer research programs and the challenges of securing a position without prior connections to faculty.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the likelihood of receiving responses from professors and the feasibility of high school students contributing to research. Some believe outreach is worthwhile, while others caution that professors may not be inclined to engage with high school students.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of personal connections and prior knowledge in securing research opportunities, as well as the varying levels of commitment professors may have towards mentoring high school students.

Who May Find This Useful

High school students interested in pursuing research experience in physics or related fields, as well as educators and mentors seeking to guide students in their academic pursuits.

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How can a high school student, such as myself gain research experience? I'm not talking about anything overly impressive. I am just talking about possibly doing something along the lines of a research mentor-ship with a physicist from a local university or something. Am i already asking too much? How do other people that get admitted into top universities such as Cal-tech obtain research experience? I know about the summer research programs, but those seem extremely competitive. Would it be weird to email a professor at a local university see what is available? or would they just completely ignore me?
Some background information: I am a sophomore, and have already completed all the calculus courses available to me, have already done the physics, and I am looking to get more out of my spare time.
 
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The college friends that I have talked to have all said to go for any potential research opportunities; what do you really have to lose by asking? :)
 
They will by no means ignore an email from you. From my experiences, they almost always respond within the next day or two when sending emails. Now this all depends on if they aren't doing something over the summer such as research, vacation, or something else that would prevent them from checking their school email. Having research experience before you even get out of high school would be very impressive for a college application and it could only benefit you to pursue this (as long as you have the motivation to not slack off during the time spent at the university).

So, by all means email some professors to see if they have any work they could have you watch or something like that. Being in high school, it might be hard to convince them to let you on but if you can, it will be quite beneficial.
 
denjay said:
They will by no means ignore an email from you. From my experiences, they almost always respond within the next day or two when sending emails. Now this all depends on if they aren't doing something over the summer such as research, vacation, or something else that would prevent them from checking their school email. Having research experience before you even get out of high school would be very impressive for a college application and it could only benefit you to pursue this (as long as you have the motivation to not slack off during the time spent at the university).

So, by all means email some professors to see if they have any work they could have you watch or something like that. Being in high school, it might be hard to convince them to let you on but if you can, it will be quite beneficial.

thanks for the input. How do you think I should go about asking the professor? It seems like quite a daunting thing to do, but I am highly motivated.
 
denjay said:
They will by no means ignore an email from you.


From my experience, they will. My junior year in high school, I emailed NUMEROUS professors, and I'd be lucky to get a response. However, don't let that discourage you!

In terms of asking, just be up front about it in the subject line of your email. In the body tell them about what you know (math AND physics wise) and why you want to help them research.

You should read some of the papers coming out of the group you're interested in helping, as it will show you exactly what results they're looking for, and how they're approaching the problem.

It's 3:30 AM, so sorry if I just rambled on and on, but i'll check this in the morning to see if i made any major mistakes haha. Good luck!
 
denjay said:
They will by no means ignore an email from you.

Professors are very likely to ignore your email. We get a lot of random emails from people about things like this (mainly crackpots). Taking on a research assistant is a huge time commitment for a professor - you need to be introduced to the work, training on equipment or computers, and supervised. Professors do not gain anything by taking on high school students as research assistants. You're not going to be useful to them. Undergrads aren't useful, and they have a much stronger science and math background. Grad students are sometimes useful. So you're not going to produce anything. It takes far longer to teach you how to do something than it does just to do it ourselves. Universities only care about research you did with students at that school; helping high school students is unlikely to help a professor get tenure.

So what should you do? You've got a few options. There are a few programs out there that are specially made to give high school student opportunities to do research. MIT, NIH, and NASA have summer research programs for high school students. You can start looking into those now to apply next summer. You can try emailing a bunch of professors, but don't expect replies. Or you can try to make a connection with a professor. Most of the people I know who did research in high school had a parent working at that university or lab. Or their high school teacher knew someone. Or they took a college class or two and got to know a few professors who could vouch for them or take them on themselves. That's what I would recommend.
 

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