Pion0 Decay: C-Violation and the Search for 3-Photon Decay

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The discussion centers on the decay of the neutral pion (\(\pi^0\)) and the implications of C-violation in electromagnetic interactions. Participants explore the possibility of a three-photon decay (\(\pi^0 \rightarrow 3 \gamma\)) and its relation to C-invariance, as well as the experimental observations surrounding this decay mode.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the dominant decay of the neutral pion is to two photons, but suggest that allowing for P-violation could lead to observable C-violation and a potential three-photon decay.
  • One participant references a source indicating that without selection rules, the branching ratio for three-photon decay is significantly reduced, raising questions about its compatibility with experimental results.
  • Others argue that searching for three-photon decay is important to verify whether electromagnetic interactions are truly C-conserving, with smaller C-violations leading to smaller branching fractions.
  • Some participants propose that the search for three-photon decay could reveal new interactions that might interfere with electromagnetism, making the decay experimentally accessible.
  • There is contention regarding whether any observed C-violation would stem from electromagnetic interactions, with some asserting that it would require alternative explanations.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that electromagnetic interactions could still account for C-violation if a small C-violating term is present, while acknowledging the possibility of other C-violating interactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of C-violation and the potential explanations for three-photon decay. There is no consensus on whether electromagnetic interactions can account for observed C-violation, and multiple competing perspectives remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference branching ratios and selection rules without fully resolving the implications of these factors on the decay processes discussed. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the nature of C-violation and its sources.

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The neutral pion is dominantly decaying to 2 photons via electromagnetic interaction \pi^0 \rightarrow 2 \gamma.
However if one allows for P-violation in electromagnetic interactions, he will also get C violation (due to CPT theorem). In that case a decay of the form \pi^0 \rightarrow 3 \gamma could be observable.
I read in "Discrete symmetries and CP Violation: From experiment to theory" by M.S.Sozzi that without the selection rule applied on the ##\pi^0## decay, then the rate of the three-gamma is reduced by a factor of order \mathcal{O}(\alpha) (that means ~130 times less), since we have 3 photon vertices instead of 2. Would that imply that:
\frac{Br(\pi^0 \rightarrow 3 \gamma )}{Br(\pi^0 \rightarrow 2 \gamma)} \sim 10^{-2}?
How can this be in agreement with the experimental result of <3~ 10^{-8}? It's not and that's why we say that C-invariance is there...then why looking for the 3-photon decay?
 
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ChrisVer said:
then why looking for the 3-photon decay?
To check if the electromagnetic interaction is really C-conserving. Smaller C-violations lead to smaller branching fractions.
 
ChrisVer said:
without the selection rule applied

This.
 
ChrisVer said:
why looking for the 3-photon decay

Good reason: to see if the EM interaction is really C-conserving.
Better reason: to see if there is some new interaction that interferes with electromagnetism, thus making it experimentally accessible.
 
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Yup but if we find some C-violation it won't be from EM interactions since EM interactions cannot explain the 3photon decay. It would have to be something else.
So I would go with the "better reason"...which atm I cannot challenge o0)
 
ChrisVer said:
Yup but if we find some C-violation it won't be from EM interactions since EM interactions cannot explain the 3photon decay.
It can, if it has a small C-violating term.
Other C-violating interactions are possible as well, of course (and given the precision experiments done with electromagnetism, I guess that would be a more likely explanation).
 

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