Plasma-Based Chamber: Potential for Space Propulsion

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The discussion revolves around a proposed concept for a plasma-based propulsion system utilizing a spherical chamber lined with magnetic plates. The idea involves the interaction of deuterium and argon gases, the application of magnetic fields, and the use of neutron radiation to ignite the gases into plasma for propulsion purposes. The conversation touches on theoretical and engineering aspects of the concept.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a spherical chamber with magnetic plates to create a null magnetic center, where a pressurized mix of deuterium and argon is ignited to form plasma.
  • The participant suggests that the magnetic relay system could recharge the propulsion system while expelling plasma through directional thrusters.
  • Another participant challenges the idea, stating that the magnetic field does not push particles closer together and questions how the gas would be heated to become plasma.
  • A later reply indicates that the heating mechanism was not detailed in the initial proposal but claims that physics professors have validated the concept.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the validation from the professors, suggesting they may not be taking the idea seriously.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of the proposed propulsion system. While one participant believes the concept has merit based on feedback from professors, others raise concerns about the heating mechanism and the validity of the professors' support.

Contextual Notes

There is an absence of detailed discussion regarding the heating mechanism necessary for plasma formation, and the assumptions made about the magnetic field's role in particle interaction remain unresolved.

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I'm not sure if this goes here or not, it kind of involves a few different disciplines so if it's in the wrong place, please could a moderator move it or let me know where to post it.

The idea that I had and am still trying to flesh out, is of a spherical chamber. This chamber is lined with magnetic plates that force a central location to be null in magnetic terms. Now, into this chamber is pumped a pressurized mix of deuterium (from the top), and argon (from below). The pressure inside is first increased using only the pumping system, then the magnetic field is activated pushing the material even closer together. At the bottom, on the center of the chamber, radiation (preferably in the form of neutron radiation) is then directed into the churning mass of excited gases. This should ignite them to the point of plasma. Argon, when added to Deuterium will ignite at the speed of sound. Exhaust ports through a one way vent open vent the plasma through a magnetic relay system before being expunged in the directional exhaust thrusters. The magnetic relay system is a serious of magnets along with ion gathering cathodes running both parallel and perpendicular to the rotational flow of the plasma and should recharge the system like the alternator in a car, at the same time that the expulsion of the plasma would move a craft. So, I have asked three different physics professors here at my college and they say they see no reason why this couldn't work, I wanted to know what the engineers out there think.
 
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talieseen said:
I'm not sure if this goes here or not, it kind of involves a few different disciplines so if it's in the wrong place, please could a moderator move it or let me know where to post it.

The idea that I had and am still trying to flesh out, is of a spherical chamber. This chamber is lined with magnetic plates that force a central location to be null in magnetic terms. Now, into this chamber is pumped a pressurized mix of deuterium (from the top), and argon (from below). The pressure inside is first increased using only the pumping system, then the magnetic field is activated pushing the material even closer together. At the bottom, on the center of the chamber, radiation (preferably in the form of neutron radiation) is then directed into the churning mass of excited gases. This should ignite them to the point of plasma. Argon, when added to Deuterium will ignite at the speed of sound. Exhaust ports through a one way vent open vent the plasma through a magnetic relay system before being expunged in the directional exhaust thrusters. The magnetic relay system is a serious of magnets along with ion gathering cathodes running both parallel and perpendicular to the rotational flow of the plasma and should recharge the system like the alternator in a car, at the same time that the expulsion of the plasma would move a craft. So, I have asked three different physics professors here at my college and they say they see no reason why this couldn't work, I wanted to know what the engineers out there think.

The magnetic field does not push the particles closer together, for one thing. Nothing is there to cause the gas to turn into a plasma. You need to heat it somehow for that to happen.
 
Well I didn't get into the whole heating element of the thing. Like I said, that part I already took to physics professors at my college and got the ok from them on that part.
 
talieseen said:
Well I didn't get into the whole heating element of the thing. Like I said, that part I already took to physics professors at my college and got the ok from them on that part.

Pretty hard to believe. They may just be humoring you.
 

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