VASIMR Propulsion: Revolutionizing Space Transportation & Exploration

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The discussion centers around the VASIMR (Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket) propulsion system, exploring its potential to revolutionize space transportation and exploration. Participants examine the technology's features, challenges, and applications, particularly in the context of launching spacecraft and the requirements for power and thrust.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight the VASIMR's ability to vary exhaust characteristics to optimize mission requirements, potentially reducing trip times and maximizing payloads.
  • Others note that VASIMR operates without physical electrodes in contact with plasma, which may enhance reliability and power density.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the thrust capability of VASIMR, with some participants stating that it may not generate sufficient thrust for launching from Earth's surface.
  • There is discussion about the continuous low thrust and high specific impulse (Isp) of VASIMR, suggesting it may be suitable for spacecraft already in orbit rather than for launch from Earth.
  • Some participants propose that heavy payloads would still require traditional chemical rockets for launch, as VASIMR may not provide the necessary thrust to overcome Earth's gravity.
  • Technical challenges related to the duration of operation and component erosion at high temperatures are mentioned, with historical benchmarks cited for continuous operation.
  • Power requirements for VASIMR are discussed, with some participants indicating that significant power, potentially from nuclear sources, would be necessary to make the system viable for larger spacecraft.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of using VASIMR for launching spacecraft from Earth, with some asserting it cannot achieve this while others explore its potential applications in orbit. There is no consensus on the best approach for launching heavy payloads, with traditional chemical rockets being suggested as a likely solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations related to power requirements and the erosion of components in plasma systems, but these issues remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Evo brought this to my attention in another thread.

http://www.adastrarocket.com/home.html

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To revolutionize space transportation and exploration, through the development and commercialization of the VASIMR engine and related technologies

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The VASIMR has two additional important features that distinguish it from other plasma propulsion systems:
1. Ability to vary the exhaust characteristics (thrust and specific impulse) in order to optimally match mission requirements. This results in the lowest trip time with the highest payload for a given fuel load.
2. VASIMR is driven by electromagnetic (RF) waves and has no physical material electrodes in contact with the hot plasma. This results in greater reliability and longer life and enables a much higher power density than competing designs.

http://www.adastrarocket.com/vasimr.html
The Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket (VASIMR) system encompasses three linked magnetic cells. The "Plasma Source" cell involves the main injection of neutral gas (typically hydrogen, or other light gases) to be turned into plasma and the ionization subsystem. The "RF Booster" cell acts as an amplifier to further energize the plasma to the desired temperature using electromagnetic waves. The "Magnetic Nozzle" cell converts the energy of the plasma into directed motion and ultimately useful thrust.

This is basically a plasma device, but there is not thermonuclear reactions. The gas propellant is simply heated by RF heating and passed through a magnetic nozzle.

Cheers, Evo!
 
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A couple of years ago, we had a little project here at PF where we planned a sample return mission to Europa. The VASIMR was our propulsion system of choice.
 
VASIMR is attractive, but the last I heard about 2 yrs ago was that there was no thrust, or rather insubstantial thrust.

So the technical challenges have been thrust and duration.

With very high Isp, VASIMR would be fine for a small spacecraft , e.g. on the order of 1 MT (1000 kg), and hopefully the thrust would be something like 10-100 N. Even then the acceleration is very low, but it's continuous.

Basically, the force has to exceed the force imposed by the local gravitational field, otherwise the craft is not going anywhere.

Then there is the matter of duration. About 20+ years ago, the benchmark was 7 yrs or ~61,000 hrs (219,600,000 s) of continuous operation. The challenge for many plasma and electrodynamic systems is the erosion of components at temperature, and rates of nm/s add up.
 
Astronuc said:
VASIMR is attractive, but the last I heard about 2 yrs ago was that there was no thrust, or rather insubstantial thrust.

So the technical challenges have been thrust and duration.

With very high Isp, VASIMR would be fine for a small spacecraft , e.g. on the order of 1 MT (1000 kg), and hopefully the thrust would be something like 10-100 N. Even then the acceleration is very low, but it's continuous.

Basically, the force has to exceed the force imposed by the local gravitational field, otherwise the craft is not going anywhere.

Then there is the matter of duration. About 20+ years ago, the benchmark was 7 yrs or ~61,000 hrs (219,600,000 s) of continuous operation. The challenge for many plasma and electrodynamic systems is the erosion of components at temperature, and rates of nm/s add up.


So you're saying that under ideal conditions, a 1000-kg VASIMR rocket could launch from Earth to orbit? How slow would its acceleration be in Earth's gravity? How long would it take to reach orbit?
 
No way could one of those launch from Earth. It would have to be either assembled in orbit or lifted to orbit by a chemical rocket. It would be the same idea as an ion thruster—small impetus over an extended period of time.
 
VASIMR is low thrust, high Isp, so as Danger mentioned, it won't get from Earth's surface to orbit. VASIMR would be applied to a craft already in orbit, whether launched whole from the surface or assembled wholly or partially in orbit.
 
So then what is the solution for very heavy launch payload to orbit, like on the or of a thousand tonnes or more?
 
There are no fundumental problems with VASIMR. The main problem is simply power. For example, just the 10 N thrust version with an Isp as low as 1,000 seconds would require over 50 KW, which is something above 11,000 square feet of solar panels. At this point, unless a nuclear reactor is used, the advantages of using such a system on a large spacecraft are negligible if any.
 
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Naturally, I was only considering VASIMR in conjunction with a nuclear power source, as any other power source would be impractical.
 

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