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The discussion centers around a disturbing account of U.S. soldiers in Iraq who reportedly engaged in shooting dogs for amusement. The original post describes a soldier's experience of shooting a dog multiple times, finding it still alive, and continuing to shoot it, which he found humorous. This behavior raises significant ethical concerns regarding desensitization to violence among soldiers, especially in a war zone. Participants in the thread express outrage at the reported actions, emphasizing that such behavior reflects poorly on military conduct and could contribute to broader issues of human rights violations. Some argue that while the soldiers may be dealing with stress and the chaotic environment of war, this does not excuse cruelty towards animals. The conversation also touches on the implications of freedom of speech and the separation of church and state, with some participants defending the right to express patriotic sentiments while criticizing the actions described. Overall, the thread highlights the moral complexities of military life and the potential psychological impacts of war on soldiers.
  • #51
This reminder was sent to me, so thought I'd pass it on (in this thread just because of the title):

March 19th, 2005 marked 2 full years since the bombs started falling in Iraq. As of last count, 1,516 American troops have been killed in combat, and over 11,220 have been seriously injured. Uncounted tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians have died, and millions are without electricity or running water. The Bush administration is in the middle of an optimism campaign on Iraq, and wants us to believe that a stable peace is around the corner. But most realists see years of chaos and violence ahead. The two-year anniversary of the invasion is an important time to come together with a solemn recognition of those we have lost, and a firm commitment to finding a better way.
 
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  • #52
Total troop deaths vs hostile-action troop deaths

SOS2008 said:
1,516 American troops have been killed in combat
No. That figure is for total fatalities.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0303-09.htm

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The number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq has topped 1,500...

At least 1,140 Americans have died as a result of hostile action...
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The U.S. troops who are not killed by hostile action typically die by driving their Humvees into ditches.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030407-accidents01.htm

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Since the war began in Iraq, one American soldier has been electrocuted, at least two others have drowned and nine more have died in automobile wrecks.

All appear to be victims of accidents, which so far are responsible for about half the fatalities among U.S. troops sent to the Middle East for the war.

"Just because you sign on the dotted line and serve with Uncle Sam doesn't mean you're immune from accidents," said Patrick Garrett, an analyst with the public policy group Global Security.org...
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  • #53
kyleb said:
I don't quite see how one can "deanimalize" a creature for behiving like an animal.
I guess this is what I get for making up words...people making up meanings :wink: :blushing:
I only meant, not seeing them as living feeling creatures...taking away their animalness..and seeing them as objects..sport...what have you.
 
  • #54
Lets remember that the average IQ of a soldier at war is between 65-70. Due to lack of sleep, malnourished,,stress, ect. That is the same as having a Chimp running around with a gun. So these articles about the absurd things soldiers do in there spair time should not surprise anyone.
 
  • #55
hitssquad said:
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/dog_shooting_in_iraq_for_fun_Mar_16_2005.html

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March 16, 2005[/size]

Dog Shooting in Iraq for "Fun"


NOTE: Ogrish.com opposes behavior such as that below. We have provided the US military and animal organisation PETA details regarding the sender of this submission.

"Hi my name is M. D. formaly of A TRP 1-10 CAV 4ID and while in Iraq we had a sport of killing dogs whenever the Iraqis weren't shooting us. So when I shot this one at about 50 yards with my M4 and it ran yelping to lower ground, we had to finish it so my friends and I went to it and started shooting it. I ve never seen a dog take as many shots to the head at least 4 as this one did and then after we thought it was dead we dug a hole and when I picked it up with the shovel it came back to life, so we shot it a couple more times...its pretty funny."
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Liar. He was shooting at an actual Iraqi...most likely at random. They care more about a dog than a human being.
 
  • #56
derekmohammed said:
Lets remember that the average IQ of a soldier at war is between 65-70. Due to lack of sleep, malnourished,,stress, ect. That is the same as having a Chimp running around with a gun. So these articles about the absurd things soldiers do in there spair time should not surprise anyone.
That IQ is at or borderline mentally retarded. So how can anyone support stupid troops?
 
  • #57
derekmohammed said:
Lets remember that the average IQ of a soldier at war is between 65-70. Due to lack of sleep, malnourished,,stress, ect. That is the same as having a Chimp running around with a gun. So these articles about the absurd things soldiers do in there spair time should not surprise anyone.

Maybe Canadian troops. Care to share where you got those figures? Hint: Out of your ass is not a valid source.
 
  • #58
That dog was a terrorist dog send by al-qaida to disrupt our soldiers ping-pong game.
 
  • #59
you know.. the dog didn't stop at the checkpoint after he was told to stop!
He could be a religious fanatical suicidal dog...you never know...
 
  • #60
SOS2008 said:
War is an ugly thing. This behavior is referred to a desensitization, and is common to law enforcement, and even medical (especially ER) work, etc. I'm not condoning or excusing this, but let's understand that soldiers aren't trained to defend our nation by being "sensitive" -- though I certainly don't excuse human rights violations per earlier threads on Guantanamo or Abu Ghraib for any reason.

Support the troops? As stated before, I also am not in favor of the mindless ribbons all over people's vehicles, and the God Bless America gear is down-right against separation of church and state.

I support the troops by not supporting unnecessary war. I support our country by supporting preservation of democracy right here at home.

unnecessary war? so let's just let terrorists bomb and try diplomicy.
I better get out of this forum and back to science, because it just makes me mad.
 
  • #61
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unnecessary war? so let's just let terrorists bomb and try diplomicy.
I better get out of this forum and back to science, because it just makes me mad.

What terrorists? The ones in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabi or the ones that moved into Iraq AFTER the war began? I was stationed in the Gulf twice for 6 months each time. When I was over there the commercials did not warn of joing Saddam. People knew he was a toothless dog. The commercials(on the TV's in Dubai, Bahrain, and Oman the three countries I was in) all warned of joing the likes of Osama.
 

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