Plot Range R vs Angle Theta (0-90)

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The discussion revolves around plotting the range \( R \) of a projectile as a function of the launch angle \( \theta \) from 0 to 90 degrees, given an initial velocity of 30 m/s. Participants explore how to determine the range for different angles and discuss the implications of their findings.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants consider using specific angle values to calculate the range and discuss the maximum range angle. Questions arise about how to find the maximum of a function and the implications of shooting an object straight up.

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Some participants have provided guidance on calculating the range for specific angles and suggested plotting the results. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between angle and range, with some questioning the accuracy of their calculations and the underlying concepts.

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There are constraints regarding the use of calculus, as some participants are instructed not to apply derivatives in their analysis. Additionally, there is a mention of potential confusion regarding the calculations involving trigonometric functions.

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We are given the velocity at which an object is projected (30 m/s) at an angle theta. I have to "Plot the range R as a function of angle theta (a value somewhere between 0 and 90 (including 0 and 90)). My thought was to possibly determine R using theta = 0 and theta = 90 to find a range, but I'm not sure that's right. The next question then asks "For what angle theta is the range R maximum?" How would I even find this?
 
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For any particular value of ##\theta##, you have a particular range ##R##. So you have a function: ##R(\theta)##. You need to find a formula for this function and then do what you are asked.
 
Do you know how to find the maximum of a function?
 
DaleSpam said:
Do you know how to find the maximum of a function?

No and I've read the chapter in my physics book twice, but still don't understand
 
If the problem said, "find the range of a projectile launched at angle 21 degree to the horizontal with the initial velocity 30 m/s", how would you go about it?
 
voko said:
If the problem said, "find the range of a projectile launched at angle 21 degree to the horizontal with the initial velocity 30 m/s", how would you go about it?
R(θ) = Vo2 sin(2θ)/g

R = (30^2 * sin(21))/9.8 = 32.91 m
 
And now if the problem said the same, except "at angle 37 degree", I am sure you would be able to find the answer much in the same way, which is good. If you repeat that for a few different values of the angle, you will be able to plot the function. Just make sure that you cover the entire range 0 - 90 with values not too far away from each other. Does the plot suggest where the maximum might be?
 
voko said:
And now if the problem said the same, except "at angle 37 degree", I am sure you would be able to find the answer much in the same way, which is good. If you repeat that for a few different values of the angle, you will be able to plot the function. Just make sure that you cover the entire range 0 - 90 with values not too far away from each other. Does the plot suggest where the maximum might be?

I solved using theta values = 0, 10, 20, and so on. It increased from R=0 to R=91.83 at theta=90. This was the highest value, but am I doing something wrong? If you shoot an object straight into the air, shouldn't it come straight down?
 
sally.smith4321 said:
No and I've read the chapter in my physics book twice, but still don't understand
That is usually a topic that is covered in a math class. The way you do it is to take the derivative of the function and set it to 0. So here you would take ##dR/d\theta=0## and solve for ##\theta##
 
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Your formula is correct. However, the results you are getting are not, because ## \sin 2 \cdot 90^{\circ} = \sin 180^{\circ} = 0 ##. Check your calculations, and make sure your calculator is in the degrees mode.
 
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voko said:
Your formula is correct. However, the results you are getting are not, because ## \sin 2 \cdot 90^{\circ} = \sin 180^{\circ} = 0 ##. Check your calculations, and make sure your calculator is in the degrees mode.

Okay! I forgot to multiply all of the numbers by 2! I'll do that now. Thank you so much for your help! You don't even understand how much it means to me!
 
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DaleSpam said:
That is usually a topic that is covered in a math class. The way you do it is to take the derivative of the function and set it to 0. So here you would take ##dR/d\theta=0## and solve for ##\theta##

I'm in an algebra based calculus class. He doesn't want us using calculus. That's probably why we weren't taught the derivative part.
 

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