Point between earth and moon where net gravitational force is zero

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The discussion revolves around finding a point between the Earth and the Moon where the net gravitational force is zero. The problem involves gravitational potential energy and the relationship between the distances from the Earth and Moon.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the gravitational potential energy equations and their application to finding the point of zero net force. There are questions about the relationship between distances from the Earth and Moon, and attempts to derive expressions for the distances involved.

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Some participants are exploring the relationships between the variables involved, while others are questioning the correctness of expressions derived. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the distinction between potential energy and gravitational force.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the gravitational potential energy is zero at infinite distances and are trying to clarify the conditions for the forces acting on the particle in question.

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A) If the moon of mass mM has radius RM and the distance between the centers of the Earth and the moon is REM, find the total gravitational potential energy of the particle-earth and particle-moon systems when a particle with mass m is between the Earth and the moon, and a distance r from the center of the earth. Take the gravitational potential energy to be zero when the objects are far from each other. Take the mass of Earth as mE.

B)There is a point along a line between the Earth and the moon where the net gravitational force is zero. Use the expression derived in part (a) to find the distance of this point from the center of the Earth in meters.


The attempt at a solution: In Part A, I was able to find that U= -GmEm/r - GmMm/(REM-r)
For Part B, do I just set the equation for potential energy equal to 0? I tried that, and got stuck, because I end up with 2 unknown variables (distance from Earth and distance from moon), so what would the second equation be to help solve for both of these variables?
 
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Aren't the distance from the Earth and the distance from the moon related? That is, isn't their sum constant?
 
I ended up with r = ((mE/mM)*REM)/(1-(mE/mM)) Is that right?
 
No, it's not.

You did (at least) two things wrong here.
1. You have the wrong expression for potential energy. Your expression is correct for points between the Earth and Moon, but not for points beyond.

2. You (apparently) solved for the point where energy is equal to zero. You are supposed to find where the force is zero.
 
I think I got it. Thank you.
 

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