Point charge above xy plane, find surface charge density

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The problem involves a point charge located above an infinite conducting plane, with the goal of determining the surface charge density on the conducting plane and the total charge induced. The context is rooted in electrostatics and the behavior of electric fields around conductors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the derivation of the surface charge density formula and questions the assumptions made regarding the uniform disc of charge. They express uncertainty about the application of the method of image charges and seek guidance on whether to continue with their current approach or consider alternatives.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided references to the method of image charges and resources for understanding electric potential. The original poster has indicated progress in their understanding after engaging with the suggestions, particularly in applying the image charge concept to derive the surface charge distribution.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the relationship between electric potential, surface charge density, and the permittivity of free space. The original poster also notes a lack of clarity in their textbook regarding these concepts.

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Homework Statement


A point charge, Q, is located @ (0,0,d) above infinite conducting plane that lies in xy plane and is maintained at ground potential. Find:
a.) surface charge density as a function of x and y on conducting plane, and
b.) total charge induced on conducting plane.


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The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I know that the E field is upward directed in the z-direction because the E-field is always perpindicular to a conducting surface. The answer is in the back of the book, and it is:
a.) ρs = (-2Qd)/(4*pi*[ρ2 + d2](3/2)
b.) Qsurface = -Q

In part a, I do not see how the author got [ρ2 + d2](3/2) in the denominator of this formula. This equation shows up in the E-field equation for a uniform disc of charge, and how can we assume this?! If I were to follow this implementation, assuming I can follow the assumptions for an uniform disc of charge, r = daz, and r' = xax + yay. (r - r') = daz - xax - yay. The magnitude of this term to the third power (still following equations for uniform disc of charge) = sqrt(d2 + x2 + y2) = sqrt(d2 + ρ2).

I get stuck here. If someone could let me know if I should continue to follow this method, and if so, how to continue. If I should try another way of thinking, please offer some tips to get me going in the right direction. Thank you for all help, it's most appreciated!
 
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can you explain how they got the potential formula and then how they got to the surface charge density on the grounded plane (the next equation)? is there a formula for this or something that I am missing here. From my text, I see no relationship that incorporates the surface charge density and the potential function, involving the permittivity of free space constant.

The closest thing I see is:
surface charge density = (epsilon)*V/d = (epsilon*E) = D, because D = surface charge density at conducting planes.
 
If you are not familiar with the electric potential yet, see this:

http://www.shef.ac.uk/physics/teaching/phy205/lecture_7.htm

ehild
 
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Thanks ehild, I figured it out. Going with your image charge suggestion, I determined that I could find the surface charge distribution by using the formula En = ps/permittivity of free space constant. I solved for the electric potential difference (V) by creating a "dipole" moment with the image charge. Then E = V/d, and then used E to solve for ps, as stated earlier.

Thanks again.
 
Well done!

ehild
 

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