Point Charges Composing A Sphere

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the electrostatic potential of a charged sphere composed of multiple point charges. Participants explore the application of Gauss's Law and the challenges of summing contributions from numerous individual charges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to derive a single charge value for a sphere made up of many individual point charges.
  • Another participant suggests that while summation is a possible approach, it can be simplified using an integral due to the large number of atoms in the sphere.
  • The second participant clarifies the use of Gauss's Law, indicating that it can provide an easier method for understanding the problem, despite being less intuitive.
  • There is a mention of the equation for the electric potential from individual point charges, noting that the distance (r) varies for each charge.
  • A later reply indicates that the initial participant feels they have gained clarity on the topic after the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single method for solving the problem, as one approach involves summation while another relies on Gauss's Law. The discussion remains exploratory with differing perspectives on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of summing contributions from numerous charges and the potential for using integrals instead. There is an implicit assumption that the sphere can be treated as a continuous charge distribution for the purposes of applying Gauss's Law.

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I have a quick question about understanding the theory behind point charges and electrostatic potentials. I've not had any classes in electrodynamics, so I lack a comfortable foundation to help me think about these problems.

I need to determine the electrostatic potential a certain distance from a charged sphere. I know you can view a sphere as a point charge and apply Gauss's Law, but the difference for me is that my sphere is made up of hundreds of individual charges composing this sphere. Each charge can be viewed as individual point charges and they all have the same value.

What I do not understand is how do I get a single charge value for the sphere.

I thought about taking the (Q/r) portion of Gauss's law and doing a summation over all the atoms, but with the amount of atoms making up the sphere this is unreasonable. Is there some simpler way to think about this problem?
 
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Right. So taking a summation is a possible way to solve the problem, believe it or not. But the summation is in the form of an integral, due to the huge number of atoms making up the sphere. The other way is to use Gauss' law, which is easier, but maybe less easy to understand in an intuitive way.

EDIT: to make it clear, when I say Gauss' law, I mean:
[tex]\nabla \cdot \vec{E} = \frac{\rho}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]
And the way to do the summation is by using the equation:
[tex]- \ \frac{Q}{4 \pi \epsilon_0 r}[/tex]
For each individual point charge in the (continuous) charged sphere, by doing an integral, keeping in mind that r will be different for each charge.
 
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Ok, I believe I understand now! I think I was confusing myself with viewing the sphere as a point charge made of point charges, but Gauss's Law allows it to work that way.

Thank you for the help!
 
no worries, glad that I was of help.
 

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