Pointwise & Unifrom Convergence

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The discussion revolves around the uniform convergence of the sequence of functions fn(x) = x2n / [n + x2n], where n≥1. Participants are exploring the pointwise limits of the functions across different intervals, particularly focusing on the behavior as x approaches various critical values.

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  • Participants are attempting to compute the pointwise limit for different intervals, questioning how the limit behaves for x>1 compared to other cases. There is a focus on inequalities and their implications for convergence.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some have suggested specific inequalities to explore, while others are seeking clarification on the implications of their findings regarding uniform convergence on specified intervals.

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Participants note that uniform convergence may not hold on intervals containing the points x=1 or x=-1 due to discontinuities, raising questions about proving uniform convergence on intervals where a>1.

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Homework Statement


Find all intervals on which the sequence of functions
fn(x) = x2n / [n + x2n], n≥1, converges uniformly.

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I think we'll need to compute the pointwise limit first.
For x=0 or x=1, the pointwise limit is 0.
But what is its pointwise limit for x>0?

Any help is appreciated!
 
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Thing thing to do would be to consider the cases (0,1), x=1 and x>1 separately.
 
OK, I think for all of the cases x=0,x=1,0<x<1, the pointwise limit would be 0.

But how can we compute the pointwise limit for x>1??
 
Write [tex]\frac{x^{2n}}{x^{2n}+n} =\frac{x^{2n}+n - n}{x^{2n}+n} = 1 - \frac{n}{n+ x^{2n}}[/tex]

On the right hand side, the second term is certainly always less than [tex]\frac{n}{x^{2n}}[/tex]. You have a linear term divided by an exponential term, so what is the limit of that term?
 
n/x2n ->0 for x>1

x2n / [n + x2n] ≥ 1 - n/x2n

1 - n/x2n->1, but still how can we compute the limit of x2n / [n + x2n]?
 
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I'm not sure you know where all the inequalities are pointing at the moment. Can you see how

[tex]0 < \frac{n}{n+x^{2n} } < \frac{n}{x^{2n}}[/tex]

You know what the term on the far right approaches, so what must the middle term approach? And so then what is the limit of the function if |x|> 1 ?
 
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n/(n+x2n < n/x2n
=> -n/(n+x2n > -n/x2n
=> 1 -n/(n+x2n > 1 -n/x2n

Thus, x2n / [n + x2n] > 1 - n/x2n

1 - n/x2n -> 1

But still this doesn't say what x2n / [n + x2n] would converge to...
 
Okay, just read post 6 again and tell me what the term on the far right converges to. And so, what do you conclude that the middle term goes to?
 
That middle term goes to 0, so fn(x) -> 1 for |x|>1 and fn(x)->0 otherwise. Now how can we determine uniform convergence. I know that for any interval [a,b] containing 1 or -1 since it's discontinuous there, we won't have uniform convergence, but how can we prove uniform convergence on [a,b] where a>1?
 
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Come on, try something! and Show me what you have done, and where you get stuck.

Of course you have to apply a definition of uniform convergence and see if the function satisfies it on some intervals.
 
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fn(x) = x2n / [n + x2n]

For the pointwise limit, I got fn(x) -> 1 for |x|>1 and fn(x)->0 otherwise.

So I know that for any interval [a,b] containing 1 or -1, we won't have uniform convergence, but how can we prove uniform convergence on [a,b] where a>1??
This is what I got, but I'm stuck...
fn(x) <= b2n / [n + a2n] < b2n / [n + 1]
How can we prove that the RHS ->0 ?

Please help!
Thanks!
 

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