Polar equation to rectangular equation

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The discussion focuses on converting the polar equation r = e^(a*theta) into a rectangular form, specifically addressing the relationship between x and y. Participants clarify that the equation ln(x^2 + y^2) = 2*a*theta is valid, but emphasize that y must be expressed as a function of x for a complete solution. The conversation highlights that the problem does not require y to be explicitly isolated, as the relationship can remain implicit. The importance of understanding the interval for theta and its implications on the graph is also noted.

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Homework Statement


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a - a fixed non-zero real number

r=e^(a*theta), where -pi/2<theta<pi/22. The attempt at a solution

r^2=(e^(a*theta))^2
x^2 + y^2 = e^(2*a*theta)
ln(x^2 + y^2) = 2*a*theta
ln(x^2 + y^2) = 2*a*(pi+arctan(y/x))

Is this OK?

 
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Are you trying to convert r(θ) into y(x)? Your title seems to indicate otherwise.

Mod note: I changed the title to reflect what the problem is asking.
 
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kuruman said:
Are you trying to convert r(θ) into y(x)? Your title seems to indicate otherwise.

Oh dear, of course. There were problems the other way round too.
 
Poetria said:
Is this OK?
It is not OK because you have not found y as a function of x. Both x and y appear on both sides of the equation. Is this the question that you are asked to solve or is it part of a solution that you reached following the algebra and you don't know how to continue?
 
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kuruman said:
It is not OK because you have not found y as a function of x. Both x and y appear on both sides of the equation. Is this the question that you are asked to solve or is it part of a solution that you reached following the algebra and you don't know how to continue?

I see. This is a multi-option problem (there are several options given and I have to choose). I have tried to do some algebra to arrive at the correct one. Well, in every option there are x and y on both sides. :(

e.g. ln(x^2+y^2)=a*tan(y/x).
 
Poetria said:
I see. This is a multi-option problem (there are several options given and I have to choose). I have tried to do some algebra to arrive at the correct one. Well, in every option there are x and y on both sides. :(

e.g. ln(x^2+y^2)=a*tan(y/x).

I could transform it of course, but there is no option with y on one side.
 
Poetria said:

Homework Statement


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a - a fixed non-zero real number

r=e^(a*theta), where -pi/2<theta<pi/22. The attempt at a solution

r^2=(e^(a*theta))^2
x^2 + y^2 = e^(2*a*theta)
ln(x^2 + y^2) = 2*a*theta
ln(x^2 + y^2) = 2*a*(pi+arctan(y/x))

Is this OK?
The next-to-last equation looks fine to me. Why did you add ##\pi## in the last equation? After all, since ##\frac y x = \tan(\theta)##, then ##\theta = \tan^{-1}(\frac y x) = \arctan(\frac y x)##.

Also, the problem might not require an equation with y explicitly in terms of x. In your equation, the relationship between x and y is an implicit one.
 
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Mark44 said:
The next-to-last equation looks fine to me. Why did you add ##\pi## in the last equation? After all, since ##\frac y x = \tan(\theta)##, then ##\theta = \tan^{-1}(\frac y x) = \arctan(\frac y x)##.

Also, the problem might not require an equation with y explicitly in terms of x. In your equation, the relationship between x and y is an implicit one.

I have added pi because -pi/2<theta<pi/2 -
oh wait I think I am wrong.

Yeah, this problem does not require y explicitly in terms of x.
 
Poetria said:
I have added pi because -pi/2<theta<pi/2 -
This just specifies the interval for ##\theta##, which determines endpoints for the graph (which by the way is some sort of spiral).

Poetria said:
oh wait I think I am wrong.
Yes -- you shouldn't add the ##\pi## term.
 
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Mark44 said:
This just specifies the interval for ##\theta##, which determines endpoints for the graph (which by the way is some sort of spiral).

Yes -- you shouldn't add the ##\pi## term.

Many thanks. I got it. :)
 
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Mark44 said:
@Poetria, take a look at our tutorial in using LaTeX to format equations and such -- https://www.physicsforums.com/help/latexhelp/. In just a few minutes you could go from writing this -- ln(x^2 + y^2) = 2*a*theta

to this -- ##\ln(x^2 + y^2) = 2a\theta##

Oh yes, I will. My way of writing is difficult to read.
Thank you so much for the link. :)
 

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