Police car and speeder when do they meet?

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The problem involves a scenario where an unmarked police car is trying to catch up to a speeder after a brief delay. The police car travels at a constant speed before accelerating, while the speeder maintains a constant speed. The discussion centers around determining the time it takes for the police car to overtake the speeder.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, including the initial conditions of both vehicles. There is an exploration of the implications of the negative time result and its relation to the timing of the police car's acceleration. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of symmetry in the context of the problem.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's method, noting that while the approach seems correct, there are nuances related to the timing of the police car's acceleration that need clarification. The conversation reflects a mix of agreement on the method and uncertainty about specific interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the police car was not accelerating during the first second, which affects the symmetry of the problem. There is also mention of the need to consider the piece-wise nature of the police officer's position function.

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Homework Statement
An unmarked police car traveling a constant 95km/h is passed by a speeder traveling 140 km/h. Precisely 1.00s after the speeder passes, the policeman steps on the accelerator; if the police car's acceleration is 2.00m/s2, how much time passes before the police car overtakes the speeder (assumed moving at constant speed)?

v0p = 95 km/h = 26.389 m/s
v0s = 140 km/h = 38.889 m/s
ap = 2.00 m/s
t1 = 1.00 s
vs = v0s

Homework Equations


x = x0 + v0t + 0.5 * a * t2

The Attempt at a Solution


Let t2 = the time it takes them to meet after the initial 1.00s.
After 1.00s, the xp = 26.389m and xs = 38.889m. Taking these two quantities as our initial positions, x0p and x0s, we have:
xp = x0p + v0pt2 + 0.5 * ap * t22
xs = x0s + v0st2
Setting these two equal, I get a quadratic equation and find t2 = 13.43 s or -0.9307 s. The total time would then be 14.43s...

But wait. Shouldn't the negative answer for t2 be -1.00s?? Because 1.00s in the past, the cars met... So I must be doing something wrong...
 
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endeavor said:
But wait. Shouldn't the negative answer for t2 be -1.00s?? Because 1.00s in the past, the cars met... So I must be doing something wrong...
Firstly, nice presentation :approve: Secondly, don't forget from 0.00s to 1.00s the police car wasn't accelerating, so the symmetry is slightly misleading.
 
Hootenanny said:
Firstly, nice presentation :approve: Secondly, don't forget from 0.00s to 1.00s the police car wasn't accelerating, so the symmetry is slightly misleading.

What do you mean "the symmetry is slightly misleading"?

Is my answer correct or wrong?
 
Your method looks correct, but I ain't checking the math for you. The symmetry is misleading because t = -0.9307 would have been the time they would have met if the police car would have been accelerating from t = 0.

Does that make sense?
 
Hootenanny said:
Your method looks correct, but I ain't checking the math for you. The symmetry is misleading because t = -0.9307 would have been the time they would have met if the police car would have been accelerating from t = 0.

Does that make sense?
Oh I see...
I forgot about that.

thanks :approve:
 
Pleasure, once again great presentation.
 
i cannt understand it
 
The position of the police officier is a piece-wise function.
 

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