Possible to calculate shear stress from this?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of calculating shear stress in a bamboo ring with a fabric flange under compression. Participants explore the mechanics of failure at the fabric/bamboo connection and the challenges of analyzing curved beams in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires whether it is possible to determine the shear stress value specific to the fabric and bamboo from the applied load.
  • Another participant questions the assumption that the failure mechanism is due to shear stress.
  • A participant mentions having conducted tests that suggest shear stress is indeed the failure mechanism, but seeks clarification on how to calculate it.
  • There is a suggestion that understanding the analysis of curved beams is necessary to approach the problem.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their ability to analyze curved beams, leading to a belief that calculating shear stress may not be possible.
  • Another participant reassures that it is possible to obtain shear stress, provided the participant learns how to analyze curved beams.
  • Several participants encourage starting with a free body diagram to facilitate understanding and problem-solving.
  • Frustration is expressed by one participant regarding the perceived lack of assistance, despite having researched the topic independently.
  • Another participant offers to help clarify the development and application of curved beam analysis if specific difficulties are articulated.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the failure mechanism, with some asserting it is shear stress while others question this assumption. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility of calculating shear stress without a clear understanding of curved beam analysis.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for knowledge about curved beam analysis and express varying levels of familiarity with the topic, indicating potential gaps in understanding that may affect the discussion.

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Ok, so I would like to know if something is possible.

I have a bamboo ring, which has been cut in half, and had a piece of fabric soaked in epoxy placed in between to act as a flange.

Under compression, the main failure occurs at the fabric/bamboo connection, as a result of shear stress.

Is it possible to determine this shear stress value specific to the fabric and the bamboo from the applied load on top?

I have attached a diagram to try to explain things a bit better?

Flange_Bamboo.png


Many thanks for any help!
 

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Who says that the failure mechanism is shear stress?
 
Chestermiller said:
Who says that the failure mechanism is shear stress?

I've done a lot of tests and it does seem to be the case. Let's assume it is even though it might not be, how could that value be determined, if it actually can?

Thanks
 
EngChrisP said:
I've done a lot of tests and it does seem to be the case. Let's assume it is even though it might not be, how could that value be determined, if it actually can?

Thanks
You are dealing with a curved beam. Do you know how to analyze a curved beam problem?
 
I do not, so I guess it is not possible to obtain shear stress from this problem? Thanks for the help anyway!
 
EngChrisP said:
I do not, so I guess it is not possible to obtain shear stress from this problem? Thanks for the help anyway!
It is possible, but you need to learn how to analyze loading and response of curved beams. Do you at least know how to analyze a straight beam?
 
Oh ok, I do know how to analyze a straight beam yes.
 
So now all you need to learn is how to extend this to cover curved beams.
 
anyone willing to help supply an answer and not try to make themselves out to be smarter than someone else please? =)
 
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Let me try. You state that you have a bachelor's degree and are working on a master's degree. I looked at two different undergrad mechanics of materials books, and both of them had a section on curved beams. At the master's degree level, you are expected to be able to read and learn material outside of what was covered in lecture. A quote from the forum rules: "Full solutions on a homework problem should never be given. Only hints and explanations are allowed."

We are trying to guide you through the process of solving this problem. We do this by helping you when you get stuck, or see you traveling down a mathematical dead end.

To answer your question in your first post: Yes, it is possible.
 
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Well I really don't know where to begin here to be honest!
 
  • #12
Start with a free body diagram of the top curved piece. Give it your best shot, and we'll help you from there.
 
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jrmichler said:
Start with a free body diagram of the top curved piece. Give it your best shot, and we'll help you from there.
Or start by googling curved beams
 
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nvm guys i see what the vibe here is like, if no one wants to help me that's cool. Of course I've googled curved beams, I'm completely lost, and I don't see myself getting much help here. Thanks anyway guys.
 
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EngChrisP said:
nvm guys i see what the vibe here is like, if no one wants to help me that's cool. Of course I've googled curved beams, I'm completely lost, and I don't see myself getting much help here. Thanks anyway guys.
Not so fast. We can still help you understand the development and application of the curved beam analysis. Please try to articulate for us the part of the development that you are having trouble with, and we will be glad to assist in getting you over the rough spots.
 
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