Potential difference of an electron

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The problem involves determining the potential difference required to accelerate an electron to a speed of 46.0% of the speed of light, starting from rest. The context includes concepts from electromagnetism and relativistic physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various equations related to kinetic energy and potential difference, with attempts to derive the necessary potential difference using different methods. Some participants express confusion about their approaches and the application of relativistic effects.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to solve the problem, with some participants questioning their understanding of the concepts involved. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of kinetic energy and relativistic mass, but no consensus has been reached on a specific approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of relativistic effects at high speeds, and there may be assumptions about the applicability of classical mechanics in this scenario.

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Homework Statement



Through what potential difference would an electron need to be accelerated for it to achieve a speed of 46.0% of the speed of light, starting from rest? The speed of light is
c= 3.00 x 10^8 m/s
m_e = 9.11 x 10^-31 kg
|e| = 1.60 x 10^-19 C
Round your answer to three significant figures in units kV.

Homework Equations


V= Ed

The Attempt at a Solution



1. I tried to break down E into E= F/q.
2. F=ma
3. V = (ma/q)d
4. V = mad/q
5. V = m(d/t^2)d/q
6. V = m(d^2/t^2)/q
7. V = m(d/t)^2/q
8. V = mv^2/q

I plugged in the numbers using this and didn't get the right answer. Am I just going at this all wrong?
 
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You are going about this problem in a convoluted way, and may be making some mistakes along the way. Try this:

Remember that the kinetic energy gained by an electron going through a potential difference, V, is equal to the potential energy lost:

[tex]K_{gained}= U_{lost}=qV[/tex]

Now, how much energy would an electron need to gain to go the given speed?
 
I just don't feel like I'm wrapping my head about this correctly.

Using your K=qV formula, I worked the other way around.

K=1/2mv^2

Thus,

1/2mv^2 = qV
V = (mv^2)/(2q)

Using this, I still didn't get the correct answer.
 
Try using M = m/[tex]\sqrt{1 - (v/c)^2}[/tex]
 
zbtzylong said:
I just don't feel like I'm wrapping my head about this correctly.

michalll said:
Try using M = m/[tex]\sqrt{1 - (v/c)^2}[/tex]

This is probably your source of error. You need to use the relativistic mass of the electron, since you are moving at a significant fraction of the speed of light.

Nice catch michalll.
 

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