Potential Dividers and Voltmeters

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The discussion revolves around the measurement of potential difference (p.d.) across resistors in a circuit involving two 500 kΩ resistors in series and a voltmeter with a resistance of 50 kΩ. Participants are exploring the implications of the voltmeter's resistance on the readings obtained and the concept of voltage division in circuits.

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  • The original poster questions the teacher's method of calculating the voltmeter reading, specifically why the voltmeter's resistance affects the expected voltage measurement. Other participants explore the differences in voltage readings when using a resistor instead of a voltmeter, raising questions about the behavior of voltage dividers.

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Participants are actively questioning the assumptions behind the voltmeter's impact on circuit measurements and discussing the implications of using different components in the circuit. There is recognition of the need for higher resistance voltmeters to avoid distortion in readings, and some participants are considering alternative setups for voltage measurement.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the effects of component resistance on voltage readings, particularly in relation to the voltmeter's resistance compared to the resistors in the circuit. The original poster expresses confusion about the teacher's calculations and the resulting voltage readings.

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Hi,

I have a simple arrangement: Two 500 kΩ resistors connected in series. The teacher illustrates what it would be like to measure the p.d across one of these 500 kΩ resistors with a voltmeter with 50 kΩ resistance. To do so, he calculated the resistance in parallel of the voltmeter and one of the resistors. He got 45.5 kΩ. So far so good, but what he did next however is what I don't understand. He divides 45.5 kΩ by the total 545 kΩ and multiplies it by the e.m.f. Why would the voltmeter read (45.5 kΩ / 545 kΩ) x 12 V? I thought it would measure 6V out of the 12 of the source since both resistors had the same resistance. The voltmeter accounts for itself?

Thanks,
Peter G.
 
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Peter G. said:
Hi,

I have a simple arrangement: Two 500 kΩ resistors connected in series. The teacher illustrates what it would be like to measure the p.d across one of these 500 kΩ resistors with a voltmeter with 50 kΩ resistance. To do so, he calculated the resistance in parallel of the voltmeter and one of the resistors. He got 45.5 kΩ. So far so good, but what he did next however is what I don't understand. He divides 45.5 kΩ by the total 545 kΩ and multiplies it by the e.m.f. Why would the voltmeter read (45.5 kΩ / 545 kΩ) x 12 V? I thought it would measure 6V out of the 12 of the source since both resistors had the same resistance. The voltmeter accounts for itself?

Thanks,
Peter G.

What he did is correct. Voltmeters give erroneous readings if you use them to measure the PD across a resistor with resistance of a similar , or larger, value to the meter itself.
Actually they give accurate readings, but the inclusion of the meter distorts the circuit.
To measure the PD in the circuit mentioned you would need a Voltmeter of much higher resistance. A CRO would be better.
 
But then why when we set up the same arrangement, but, instead of a voltmeter we use a resistor the p.d across a resistor would be 6 V in this example?
 
Peter G. said:
But then why when we set up the same arrangement, but, instead of a voltmeter we use a resistor the p.d across a resistor would be 6 V in this example?

If you set up a voltage divider where the two parts were:
#1 a 500 000 Ohm resistor
#2 a 500 000 Ohm and a 50 000 Ohm resistor in parallel

Then the voltage would not be divided 6 - 6

it would be divided 1 - 11, since one part of the divider has 11 times the resistance of the other.
 

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