Power Calc: Find Current & Power in Circuit - Resistors Absorbing?

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The discussion revolves around a circuit analysis problem involving resistors, a current source, and a voltage source. Participants are tasked with finding the current flowing through the resistor, determining the power for each circuit element, and identifying which elements are absorbing power.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between current and power in the circuit, questioning how a resistor can supply power while typically dissipating it as heat. There are inquiries about the voltage drops across the resistor and voltage source, and how these relate to power calculations.

Discussion Status

Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the definitions and roles of circuit elements. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of power flow, but no consensus has been reached on the specifics of power absorption or supply by the resistor.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the polarity of voltage drops and the implications for power calculations. There is a recurring theme of confusion regarding the instructor's statements about power supply and absorption in the context of resistors and voltage sources.

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Homework Statement


Concider the circuit shown below. Find the current iR flowing through the resitor. Find the power for each element in the circuit. Which elements are absorbing power?

Homework Equations


Ohm's law: U = IR;
Kirchhoff's Current Law and Kirchhof's Voltage Law.

The Attempt at a Solution


My instructor told me that the resistor is supplying power and the voltage source is absorbing power. But I just didn't get it.
By the diagram, the current iR flows in a clockwise direction. With KCL, iR = 2A, and with Ohm's law, vR = iRR = 10V. But How can I know whether the resistor is absorbing power or supplying power? Because I can't determine the polarity between the resitor with KVL.
It's clear that the voltage source is absorbing power, and if it were a battery, it would be charging.
But I can't understand how can a resistor SUPPLY power to other elements in the circuit as my instructor told me.
 

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Is that 2A a current source or ammeter?
 
PhysicoRaj said:
Is that 2A a current source or ammeter?
It's an independent current source, and 10V is an independent voltage source.
 
kexanie said:

Homework Statement


Concider the circuit shown below. Find the current iR flowing through the resitor. Find the power for each element in the circuit. Which elements are absorbing power?

Homework Equations


Ohm's law: U = IR;
Kirchhoff's Current Law and Kirchhof's Voltage Law.

The Attempt at a Solution


My instructor told me that the resistor is supplying power and the voltage is absorbing power. But I just didn't get it.
By the diagram, the current iR flows in a clockwise direction. With KCL, iR = 2A, and with Ohm's law, vR = iRR = 10V. But How can I know whether the resistor is absorbing power or supplying power? Because I can't determine the polarity between the resitor with KVL.
It's clear that the voltage source is absorbing power, and if it were a battery, it would be charging.
But I can't understand how can a resistor SUPPLY power to other elements in the circuit as my instructor told me.
Hi kexanie.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

I believe what your instructor intended you to understand is that through the resistor is power delivered to the voltage source. It is the constant current source that supplies this power. Resistors always dissipate heat, according to the I2•R formula, but there is nothing to say that the current can't then go on to deliver power to another element.
 
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NascentOxygen said:
Hi kexanie.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

I believe what your instructor intended you to understand is that through the resistor is power delivered to the voltage source. It is the constant current source that supplies this power. Resistors always dissipate heat, according to the I2•R formula, but there is nothing to say that the current can't then go on to deliver power to another element.

so can we tell that the power of the current source, the resitor and the voltage source are respectively -20W, 0W and 20W since the resitor just give out what it absorb from the current source?
 
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kexanie said:

Homework Statement


Concider the circuit shown below. Find the current iR flowing through the resitor. Find the power for each element in the circuit. Which elements are absorbing power?

Homework Equations


Ohm's law: U = IR;
Kirchhoff's Current Law and Kirchhof's Voltage Law.

The Attempt at a Solution


My instructor told me that the resistor is supplying power and the voltage source is absorbing power. But I just didn't get it.
By the diagram, the current iR flows in a clockwise direction. With KCL, iR = 2A, and with Ohm's law, vR = iRR = 10V. But How can I know whether the resistor is absorbing power or supplying power? Because I can't determine the polarity between the resitor with KVL.
It's clear that the voltage source is absorbing power, and if it were a battery, it would be charging.
But I can't understand how can a resistor SUPPLY power to other elements in the circuit as my instructor told me.

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What is the voltage drop across the resistor? (in the direction of current flow)

What is the voltage drop across the voltage source? (in the direction of current flow)
 
kexanie said:
so can we tell that the power of the current source, the resitor and the voltage source are respectively -20W, 0W and 20W since the resitor just give out what it absorb from the current source?
All electrical power a resistor 'absorbs' is turned into heat.
 
SammyS said:
What is the voltage drop across the resistor? (in the direction of current flow)

What is the voltage drop across the voltage source? (in the direction of current flow)

1)By Ohm's law, the voltage drop across the resitor is 10 V? How can I know the polarity of that voltage?

2)Is it just 10 V? I am not sure. But by the definition of an independent voltage source, it should be 10 V.
 
kexanie said:
1)By Ohm's law, the voltage drop across the resistor is 10 V? How can I know the polarity of that voltage?

2)Is it just 10 V? I am not sure. But by the definition of an independent voltage source, it should be 10 V.
Going around the circuit clockwise, the same direction in which the current is forced to flow, yes the voltage drops by 10 Volts as it flows through the resistor. (Now you can find the power )

Continuing in the same direction, how much does the voltage change as current passes through the voltage source?
 
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SammyS said:
Going around the circuit clockwise, the same direction in which the current is forced to flow, yes the voltage drops by 10 Volts as it flows through the resistor. (Now you can find the power )

Continuing in the same direction, how much does the voltage change as current passes through the voltage source?

Sorry for grammar mistakes.

1) I can easily tell that the magnitude of that power is 10 W, but should it be negative or positive? I can't tell the polarity of the voltage dropped across the resistor. That's why I am asking.

2) I don't know. Do you mean electric potential by voltage?
 
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kexanie said:
1) I can easily tell that the magnitude of that power is 10 W, but should it be negative or positive? I can't tell the polarity of the voltage dropped across the resistor. That's why I am asking
Current flows through the resistor from the higher potential end to the lower potential end, e.g., from positive towards negative, and this is described as a voltage drop.
 

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