Power output and sound intensity

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The discussion centers on the confusion surrounding the calculation of sound intensity from two speakers, specifically the transition from the formula ##4\pi r^2## to ##\pi r^2##. Participants clarify that the speakers are typically positioned 2.5 meters apart, suggesting a three-dimensional arrangement rather than a two-dimensional one. The conversation highlights the misconception of treating speaker cabinets, which contain multiple drivers, as point sources. This misunderstanding is identified as a critical flaw in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement
At a distance of 2.5m from your stereo system with two speakers, the intensity level is 78 dB. Assume that all the energy from the amplifier goes into producing sound. What power output does your stereo have?
Relevant Equations
B=10log I/Ith
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Why did you change ##4\pi r^2## to ##\pi r^2##?
 
We're assuming the two speakers are point sources that share the same location?
 
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Mister T said:
We're assuming the two speakers are point sources that share the same location?
Good point. More likely, the speakers are 2.5m either side of the listener.
 
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haruspex said:
Why did you change ##4\pi r^2## to ##\pi r^2##?
I was not sure if the question was in 2d hence pi*r*r or 3d 4*pi*r*r.
 
haruspex said:
Good point. More likely, the speakers are 2.5m either side of the listener.
I’m not 100% sure it is a vague question. I assumed they were in the same speaker housing maybe one was bass and one treble etcetera.
 
dylanwalt said:
I was not sure if the question was in 2d hence pi*r*r or 3d 4*pi*r*r.
We do not live in Flatland.
dylanwalt said:
I’m not 100% sure it is a vague question. I assumed they were in the same speaker housing maybe one was bass and one treble etcetera.
It mentions specifically "two speakers", and stereo systems are not just a matter of separate woofers and tweeters; typically, a stereo system has two speaker housings, each containing a tweeter and a woofer.
The separation of stereo speakers would commonly be around 2.5m, suggesting an equilateral triangle arrangement.
However, it's not clear to me how that would affect the answer, so just take it as a point source.
 
haruspex said:
The separation of stereo speakers would commonly be around 2.5m, suggesting an equilateral triangle arrangement.
However, it's not clear to me how that would affect the answer, so just take it as a point source.
Yeah, this is a very confusing problem statement.

haruspex said:
We do not live in Flatland.
LOL. :smile:
 
dylanwalt said:
I was not sure if the question was in 2d hence pi*r*r or 3d 4*pi*r*r.
Please check your Private Messages (PMs) in a minute or two. I will send you some tips for learning and using LaTeX to post math equations at PF. :wink:
 
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Speaker cabinets contain at least one driver, like say a woofer and a tweeter. By their very design they are not point sources. In my opinion that's the most unrealistic feature of the problem statement.
 

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