Power output and sound intensity

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The discussion revolves around the power output and sound intensity of speakers, specifically considering the geometry and assumptions related to their placement and characteristics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are questioning the dimensionality of the problem, whether it should be treated in 2D or 3D, and how this affects the calculations. There is also discussion about the nature of the speakers, whether they are point sources or have more complex configurations.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem statement. Some have offered insights about the typical arrangement of stereo speakers and the implications of treating them as point sources, while others express uncertainty about the clarity of the question.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity in the problem statement regarding the configuration of the speakers and their distances from the listener, which may influence the calculations. Participants are also considering the implications of speaker design on the assumptions made in the problem.

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Homework Statement
At a distance of 2.5m from your stereo system with two speakers, the intensity level is 78 dB. Assume that all the energy from the amplifier goes into producing sound. What power output does your stereo have?
Relevant Equations
B=10log I/Ith
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Why did you change ##4\pi r^2## to ##\pi r^2##?
 
We're assuming the two speakers are point sources that share the same location?
 
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Mister T said:
We're assuming the two speakers are point sources that share the same location?
Good point. More likely, the speakers are 2.5m either side of the listener.
 
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haruspex said:
Why did you change ##4\pi r^2## to ##\pi r^2##?
I was not sure if the question was in 2d hence pi*r*r or 3d 4*pi*r*r.
 
haruspex said:
Good point. More likely, the speakers are 2.5m either side of the listener.
I’m not 100% sure it is a vague question. I assumed they were in the same speaker housing maybe one was bass and one treble etcetera.
 
dylanwalt said:
I was not sure if the question was in 2d hence pi*r*r or 3d 4*pi*r*r.
We do not live in Flatland.
dylanwalt said:
I’m not 100% sure it is a vague question. I assumed they were in the same speaker housing maybe one was bass and one treble etcetera.
It mentions specifically "two speakers", and stereo systems are not just a matter of separate woofers and tweeters; typically, a stereo system has two speaker housings, each containing a tweeter and a woofer.
The separation of stereo speakers would commonly be around 2.5m, suggesting an equilateral triangle arrangement.
However, it's not clear to me how that would affect the answer, so just take it as a point source.
 
haruspex said:
The separation of stereo speakers would commonly be around 2.5m, suggesting an equilateral triangle arrangement.
However, it's not clear to me how that would affect the answer, so just take it as a point source.
Yeah, this is a very confusing problem statement.

haruspex said:
We do not live in Flatland.
LOL. :smile:
 
dylanwalt said:
I was not sure if the question was in 2d hence pi*r*r or 3d 4*pi*r*r.
Please check your Private Messages (PMs) in a minute or two. I will send you some tips for learning and using LaTeX to post math equations at PF. :wink:
 
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Speaker cabinets contain at least one driver, like say a woofer and a tweeter. By their very design they are not point sources. In my opinion that's the most unrealistic feature of the problem statement.
 

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