Powering Your External Hard Drive: Options, Tips, and Recommendations"

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The discussion revolves around powering an external hard drive that requires 12 volts at 1.5 amps. Participants explore various methods to power the drive in a portable manner, considering alternatives to the provided wall adapter. The conversation includes technical considerations, practical suggestions, and some humorous exchanges about memory technology.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that USB ports provide 5 volts and may not be suitable for the drive's power requirements.
  • Another participant mentions that while USB and Firewire can supply power, they are typically limited to low current devices and unlikely to meet the 1.5A requirement.
  • A suggestion is made to use a power strip as a simple solution for powering both the laptop and the external drive.
  • One participant humorously calculates that powering the drive with AA batteries would require 27 batteries and would only last 1.3 hours, questioning the practicality of this approach.
  • Another participant suggests using a 12-volt lead-acid gel-cell battery, noting the need for a reliable charging method.
  • There are humorous exchanges about the evolution of memory technology, with participants reminiscing about older storage methods and their experiences.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the hard drive may not continuously draw 1.5A, suggesting that power management settings could extend battery life.
  • One participant advises against attempting complex electronics solutions and recommends purchasing a USB-powered drive instead.
  • Another participant suggests using a 4-way extension lead to run both the drive and laptop from a single outlet.
  • There are off-topic posts where participants discuss older computing technologies and their experiences, which do not directly relate to the power supply issue.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the best method to power the external hard drive, with no consensus reached. Some suggest practical solutions like power strips or battery options, while others question the feasibility of those methods. The humorous exchanges about memory technology indicate a shared nostalgia but do not contribute to resolving the main topic.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the power consumption of the hard drive, as well as the practicality of various suggested solutions. The discussion includes both technical and humorous elements, which may distract from the core issue of powering the device.

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I just got a new external hard drive that wants 12 volts at 1.5 amps. it comes with a wall wart, but I'd rather find some other method to power it to keep it more portable friendly. (only need 1 outlet to power the drive and laptop)
I've got several options, but i don't think most of these work easily...
I've got some open USB ports (i know those have a 5 volt output, so i don't think that works)
firewire (looks like 4 pin, which i don't think supplies power)
esata (i don't think that carries power either)
now the ones that i think may get somewhere...
there's an expresscard slot, ethernet, and phone line port.
as another possibility, the power supply for this laptop outputs 19 volts at 6.32 amps.

any help in a way to build something for this, a place to buy one, or to just say it won't work, or it's just a bad idea, that would be appreciated.
 
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Both USB and firewire can supply power but they are made to supply power to low current devices. USB generally can only supply 100mA or so, not sure about firewire... I think it can supply a little more but I don't think it will come close to 1.5A.

Your best bet is a small power strip...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003EAY5SQ/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
Sell the external drive and buy another that's powered by the USB.
 
Just for kicks, I tried to see what it would take in terms of AA batteries and I came up with 27 batteries and 3 diodes to get 1.3 hours of operation. Not very useful.
 
is this a large drive?
i see those little USB flash thingies are up to 64 gb now , isn't that plenty?

but i am getting old - in my day memory was magnetic and one meg was huge.
 
phinds said:
Just for kicks, I tried to see what it would take in terms of AA batteries and I came up with 27 batteries and 3 diodes to get 1.3 hours of operation. Not very useful.

eh!? How did you figure that one out!?

Firstly, it won't pull 1.5A all the time, that is the rating for peak loads during operation. You can set your computer to power down the hard drive if unused for 60s, or whatever, if it doesn't do it itself.

Even if it did pull 1.5A continuously, 10 2000mAh rechargeable batteries will last you an hour, poss a little longer (that is 2Ah = 2A for an hour).

Diodes? Why?

...so the answer speaks for itself, as already mentioned: Don't try doing electronics! Just get a USB-self-powered drive!
 
One option is to use a 12-volt lead-acid gel-cell, which can be bought at most electronics suppliers (not Radio Shack) or places like Battery Works. However, you will have to devise a reliable method to charge that battery as well.
It's bulky, but one of those Jump It units can work, and is a self-contained portable gel-cell battery and charger. The bulky battery cables and clamps may be awkward, but removable. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/205180/product_review_prestone_jump_it_portable.html
 
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jim hardy said:
but i am getting old - in my day memory was magnetic and one meg was huge.

That gave me a good chuckle. In my day, memory was little iron donuts and 16 KILObytes was huge. 1 meg did not exist.
 
phinds said:
That gave me a good chuckle. In my day, memory was little iron donuts and 16 KILObytes was huge. 1 meg did not exist.
Oh yeah, well in MY day we had little 3 inch plastic "floppy" discs that weren't very floppy at all!

Power strip is probably the simplest option, especially compared to the battery suggested above and the necessary charging equipment.
 
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3" floppies! Luxury tech!

"You don't know how lucky you were!"

So... who remembers when 'memory' was a 1" wide strip of blue paper with 7 rows of holes across it.

Huh! And you guys think you had it primitive!

;)
 
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"""So... who remembers when 'memory' was a 1" wide strip of blue paper with 7 rows of holes across it."""

and after a while you learn to read the seven bit ASCII holes in the tape directly as text...;

and you can fix a corrupted binary file with scotch tape and a pocket knife;

ahhh yes, i remember it well - a ASR33 is forever! (wish i'd kept mine)


sounds like you might also remember 12AU7 flip-flop logic ..

:) :) :)
 
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Actually, it was just before my time. I remember my Father coming back from some night classes he was taking, with these rolls of computer tape. I'm from the 'M68000' generation - 'solid state' RAM you could 'DIY' with, and programmes you could store on a cassette tape.
 
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hiiiiiiiiiiii dear , i want build 12vdc voltage regulator supply but i do not deside what rating of transformer diode capactior if input 230v ac and load 20ohms
 
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vead said:
hiiiiiiiiiiii dear , i want build 12vdc voltage regulator supply but i do not deside what rating of transformer diode capactior if input 230v ac and load 20ohms

Hi Vead,

I gave you answers in the other forum :)

And by the way don't hijack other people's threads its rude
Always start your own one :)

Dave
 

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