Poynting vector of current carrying wire

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The discussion focuses on calculating the Poynting vector for a long straight wire of radius a and resistance per unit length R carrying a constant current I. The Poynting vector N is defined as N = E × H, where E is the electric field and H is the magnetic field. The electric field outside the wire is given by E = -λ/(2πεr) and the magnetic field at the surface is H|_a = I/(2πa) ȷ̂. The integration of the Poynting vector over the surface of a length l of the wire reveals the energy flow associated with the current.

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Homework Statement


A long straight wire of radius a and resistance per unit length R carries a constant current I. Find the Poynting vector N = E × H at the surface of the wire and give
a sketch showing the directions of the current, the electric field E, the magnetic field
H, and N. Integrate the Poynting vector over the surface of a length l of the wire and comment on your result

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The Attempt at a Solution


##\integral{H\dot dl}=I_{free}##
##H(2\pi r)=I##
##H|_a=\frac{I}{2\pi a} \hat{\theta}##

E outside the wire will be ##E=-\frac{\lambda}{2\pi\epsilon r } \hat{r}##

I don't know if this is the same as the E field at the surface? Also I don't know how to get ##\lambda## in terms of I and R

then ##S=E\cross H ##

Many thanks
 
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Does a wire piece of length ##l## carry a net charge or is it neutral?
 
kuruman said:
Does a wire piece of length ##l## carry a net charge or is it neutral?
It is neutral. However I know there needs to be a poynting vector so I don't know how this works
 
If it's neutral, there is no E-field outside the wire. How about inside the wire?
 
kuruman said:
If it's neutral, there is no E-field outside the wire. How about inside the wire?
Inside the wire we have a non-neutral charge. Negative electrons flow in one direction, leaving positive ions behind. Hence we have an E-field in the direction of current? Not sure how to calculate its magnitude though
 
Physgeek64 said:
Not sure how to calculate its magnitude though
You know that the potential difference across the two ends of the wire is V. If the distance between the ends is ##l##, what is E?
 
kuruman said:
You know that the potential difference across the two ends of the wire is V. If the distance between the ends is ##l##, what is E?
##\frac{V}{l}##
 
OK, now what? How does that help you answer the question?
 
kuruman said:
OK, now what? How does that help you answer the question?
It does help- thank you very much!
 

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