Practical scenario: NIR laser, black light marker and lamp.

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The discussion centers on the practical application of NIR laser technology for hair removal, specifically addressing the use of black-light markers versus grease pencils for delineating treatment areas. The NIR laser operates within the 810 - 1300 nm range, and the concern is that the grease pencil flakes off, creating a film that interferes with the laser's effectiveness. Participants suggest that black-light markers, which do not flake, could provide a better alternative, with visibility depending on the color chosen, particularly in the yellow-green spectrum, which is most sensitive to the human eye. Additionally, it is noted that the grease pencil may decompose under the laser, potentially leaving grid lines on untreated skin.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of NIR laser technology and its wavelength range (810 - 1300 nm)
  • Knowledge of the properties of black-light markers and their visibility under UV light
  • Familiarity with the effects of different colors on laser performance
  • Basic principles of laser hair removal and skin treatment
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the effects of different colors of black-light markers on NIR laser visibility
  • Investigate the thermal effects of laser light on various skin types
  • Explore airflow solutions to mitigate heat buildup in laser devices
  • Learn about the decomposition of materials under laser exposure and its implications for treatment
USEFUL FOR

Cosmetic laser technicians, dermatologists, and professionals involved in laser hair removal procedures who seek to optimize treatment methods and improve visibility during procedures.

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...and my high-school buddies said you'll never use this stuff in real life. Hello, my name is Matt and once in a while I deal with the practical application of Physics in a wide range of real-life settings. Most of the time I'm capable of researching the given topic myself. This time, I need a confirmation from someone knowledgeable, someone who paid attention in high-school Physics class :)

A very practical scenario / questions:

A cosmetic laser used for hair removal emits NIR light 810 - 1300 nm. Protective glasses are worn by the operator.

To delineate treatment area, a grid is drawn on skin, using opaque, white grease pencil.
The laser is pressed against the skin and fired. Emitted light energy "burns" the hair and follicle. And voila; perfect, hairless skin.

As the treatment progresses, the pencil wears off, flakes off and forms a thin, not transparent film on the laser, which limits the amount of light reaching the skin and by reflecting the light back, causes excessive heat buildup inside of the device.

If a black-light marker (no wearing off, no flaking off) was used to delineate the treatment area and the skin was illuminated by a black light lamp (protective glasses not necessary), will the grid be visible through the laser - protective glasses? If so, which marker colour will be visible the most? Also, which marker colour(s) will interfere the least with the emitted NIR laser light?

Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
 
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MATT F said:
will the grid be visible through the laser - protective glasses?
Since the black-light marker emits in the visible, if you can see anything thru the goggles you can pick a marker color that is visible. (The human eye is most sensitive in the Yellow-Green spectral region. But you may need different colors for different skin tones.)

MATT F said:
To delineate treatment area, a grid is drawn on skin, using opaque, white grease pencil.
The laser is pressed against the skin and fired. Emitted light energy "burns" the hair and follicle.
Does that leave grid lines on the skin that does not have the hair removed? If not, then the grease pencil, being opaque, must obviously be decomposed by the laser; which would probably occur regardless of the marker used. I would expect that some of the deposit on the laser port is from vaporized material from the patient. Introducing an air flow at the laser port would flush the fumes away.

Good luck.
Keep us updated on your results.
 

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