Predict value of g from displacement equation

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The discussion revolves around predicting the acceleration due to gravity (g) using a displacement equation derived from experimental data. The original poster presents a displacement equation from their experiment and seeks to relate it to the theoretical equation for displacement under constant acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the experimental displacement equation and the theoretical equation for displacement, questioning how to isolate variables and interpret the physical meaning of the quantities involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications about the experimental setup and questioning the definitions of the variables involved. There is an exploration of potential sources of error in the measurements and how they might affect the predicted value of g.

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Participants note that the experimental method involved timing the fall of a washer and recording displacement on ticker tape, raising concerns about measurement uncertainty and its impact on the results.

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1. I have to predict g, assuming that the correct equation for displacement as a function of time is x= 1/2gt^2. My equation for the displacement collected from experimental data is y = 0.30x^2 + 0.63x - 0.05. I am not sure how to find what g would be from these two equations or how they relate, but my guess would be try to isolate x from my equation perhaps? However, I need lots of help before Friday! Thanks in advance.
 
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What exactly does your experimentally obtained equation represent? What is y and x?
 
cb3930 said:
1. I have to predict g, assuming that the correct equation for displacement as a function of time is x= 1/2gt^2. My equation for the displacement collected from experimental data is y = 0.30x^2 + 0.63x - 0.05. I am not sure how to find what g would be from these two equations or how they relate, but my guess would be try to isolate x from my equation perhaps? However, I need lots of help before Friday! Thanks in advance.

try to be a little more descriptive about what you're doing and be careful about your notation. (I think by x = 1/2gt^2, you mean x = (1/2)gt^2)

Also try to describe these quantities more physically (what does g, x, and y represent in physical reality? is this a lab?). Try asking the question again.
 
I apologize for the clarity issues. The lab was basically having a washer fall around 2m and little dots were made on a ticker tape that was threaded through the washer. X here is the displacement (m from the first point on the ticker tape). Y represents (t, which is the elapsed time in seconds). G in the equation x = (1/2)gt^2 is the constant acceleration due to gravity, but I am supposed to predict my value for g somehow and not use the set value (9.80 m/s/s)
 
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cb3930 said:
I apologize for the clarity issues. The lab was basically having a washer fall around 2m and little dots were made on a ticker tape that was threaded through the washer. X here is the displacement (m from the first point on the ticker tape). Y represents (t, which is the elapsed time in seconds). G in the equation x = (1/2)gt^2 is the constant acceleration due to contrary, but I am supposed to predict my value for g somehow and not use the set value (9.80 m/s/s)

How were the dots made?
 
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The timer had a point that pressed down every 1/60th of a second on carbon paper which made dots on the ticker tape as it fell.
 
cb3930 said:
The timer had a point that pressed down every 1/60th of a second on carbon paper which made dots on the ticker tape as it fell.

Any chance that would contribute to any measurement uncertainty - like slowing it up a wee bit?
 
Yes, in fact one the questions is to discuss the possible sources of error in my reported velocity values. I would suspect it might also influence what my predicted g value is. Does anyone have any idea how to get a g value from my equation?
 
cb3930 said:
Yes, in fact one the questions is to discuss the possible sources of error in my reported velocity values. I would suspect it might also influence what my predicted g value is. Does anyone have any idea how to get a g value from my equation?

Your data should show increasing speed.

Speed is the incremental distance - dot to dot/ time. If they are spaced at 1/60 of a second the distance dot to dot divided by 1/60 is your instantaneous speed.

Acceleration is the rate of change in speed.

So look at the differences between each of the successive dot to dot differences.

Example:
1 - 1.1 - 1.3 - 1.6 - 2.0 ... are where the dots measure to
Differences:
.1 - .2 - .3 - .4 ... These are velocities.
Differences of the differences:
.1 - .1 - .1 ...This is your acceleration.
 

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