Preparing Alcohol from Bromobenzene and 1-Butene | Solomons Organic Chem
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the synthesis of an alcohol from bromobenzene and 1-butene, as presented in a problem from Solomons Organic Chemistry. Participants explore various synthetic pathways, mechanisms, and potential issues related to the reaction.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Homework-related
Main Points Raised
- One participant suggests a nucleophilic attack through an elimination-addition mechanism, indicating the need for imaginative approaches in organic synthesis.
- Another participant proposes synthesizing the desired compound by first converting bromobenzene into a Grignard reagent, followed by hydroboration-oxidation of butene, and subsequent reactions.
- Concerns are raised about the carbon count and regiochemistry of the proposed alcohol, particularly regarding the hydroboration-oxidation method.
- Alternative methods are discussed, including epoxidation of the alkene and the use of a Gilman reagent to achieve the desired regioselectivity.
- Some participants express uncertainty about the feasibility of forming Grignard reagents from bromobenzene, while others assert that it is possible.
- There are mentions of using a solution manual for guidance, with some participants advocating for its purchase to aid in solving the problem.
- One participant reflects on the possibility of rearranging the hydroxyl group after initial synthesis to achieve the correct product.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express multiple competing views on the best synthetic route, with no consensus reached on a single method. Disagreement exists regarding the validity of certain proposed mechanisms and the correct regiochemistry of the product.
Contextual Notes
Participants note limitations in their understanding of certain reagents and mechanisms, particularly regarding the Gilman reagent and the specifics of the problem from the textbook.
Who May Find This Useful
Students studying organic chemistry, particularly those interested in synthetic methods and reaction mechanisms involving Grignard reagents and alkene transformations.
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please help.
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1) Turn bromobeneze into a grignard reagent by the usual methods. Put it aside.
2.) Do a hydroboration oxidation on the terminal alkene to create the primary alcohol.
3) Do a swern oxidation on the primary alcohol to create the aldehyde.
4). React the created grignard reagent with the aldehyde and then add some acid. Your result will be your desired product.
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Ozonolysis would carve out a carbon. The product drawn has 10.
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The regiochemistry of the alcohol would be wrong with the hydroboration/oxidation thing.
I'm not sure what you are talking about. Hydroboration oxidation of a terminal alkene leads to a primary alcohol. Hydroboration oxidation adds an OH to an alkene in what appears to be an "anti Markovnikov" fashion. You would get 1-butanol with Hydroboration oxidation.
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well i got by one of the suggestion of hydroboration oxidation alcohol but it give wrong osition of hydroxyl group.
it should on next carbon but got on first carbon of sidechain.
problem is age 563 12.20 of organic chemistry by craig fryhle and solomons 7th edition.
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Amb, have you learned about epoxides and Gilman reagents yet, because I am pretty sure that is the way to do it.
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but gilman i don't know that. it's not in solomons which i am primarily following in undergraduate chemistry text.
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Cheers
Vivek
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I'm guessing you're confusing BnBr with PhBr.
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movies said:CSF, the question says bromobenzene, not benzyl bromide.
Whoops, you're right. My mistake.
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gravenewworld said:Here is another way I thought of to synthesize your desired compound:
1) Turn bromobeneze into a grignard reagent by the usual methods. Put it aside.
2.) Do a hydroboration oxidation on the terminal alkene to create the primary alcohol.
3) Do a swern oxidation on the primary alcohol to create the aldehyde.
4). React the created grignard reagent with the aldehyde and then add some acid. Your result will be your desired product.
There are several problems with your proposal, right of the bat I don't believe that a grinard reagent can be formed with bromobenzene.
How about epoxidation of the alkene with MCPBA, then make the Gilman reagent of the bromobenzene (nBuLi, then CuI). Mixing that with the epoxide should open the epoxide at the less hindered position and give the right regiochemistry.
Again, not very plausible, similar reasoning as above.
Which chapter is your problem on ambuj?
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You used to be able to buy phenyllithium, but I think Aldrich stopped carrying for some reason. Probably because it is so easy to make from butyllithium.
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Anyway thanks all of you for suggestion can someone Please solve the question as i have to comPlete it by monday for school.
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Cheers to all.
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