Prereqs for learning particle physics?

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The discussion focuses on the prerequisites for studying particle physics, including both theoretical and experimental aspects. Participants share their educational backgrounds and seek recommendations for textbooks and resources to aid their self-study.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions completing Calculus 3 and Physics with Calculus 3, expressing interest in starting particle physics.
  • Another participant outlines that particle physics fundamentally involves quantum field theory, requiring knowledge of relativistic quantum mechanics, special relativity, nonrelativistic quantum mechanics, and electrodynamics.
  • It is suggested that classical mechanics concepts, particularly Hamiltonian and Lagrangian formalism, are also important for nonrelativistic quantum mechanics.
  • On the experimental side, understanding special relativity and solid-state physics is deemed necessary, along with electrodynamics and possibly electronics.
  • Textbook recommendations include "Quantum Physics: The Theoretical Minimum" by Susskind and "Introduction to Elementary Particles" by Griffiths.
  • Other recommended texts are "Introduction to Elementary Particle Physics" by Alessandro Bettini and "Particle Physics" by B.R. Martin and G. Shaw, which are noted as common in third-year courses.
  • Participants suggest searching for online syllabi, lecture slides, and course notes for additional study resources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational topics such as quantum mechanics and special relativity for studying particle physics. However, there is no consensus on a definitive list of prerequisites or the best resources, as multiple recommendations and perspectives are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some prerequisites mentioned depend on individual educational backgrounds and may vary in importance based on specific areas of focus within particle physics. The discussion reflects a range of opinions on the necessary foundational knowledge and resources.

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I want to start studying particle physics on my own and wanted to know what the prerequisite are? I'm in my second year of college and have finished Calc. 3 and Physics with calc. 3. I'd also be interested in textbook recommendations.
 
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On the theoretical side, particle physics is quantum field theory. Relativistic quantum mechanics helps, which then needs special relativity and nonrelativistic quantum mechanics. Electrodynamics is probably useful to understand special relativity better. Nonrelativistic quantum mechanics relies on concepts introduced in classical mechanics (in particular, Hamilton/Lagrange formalism) and algebra and analysis.

On the experimental side, special relativity is absolutely necessary, if you want to understand the detectors some solid-state physics is necessary, electrodynamics for sure, maybe electronics depending on the level of detail.

I'm sure I forgot some points.
 
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try Quantum Physics: The Theoretical Minimum - Books 1 & 2 - by Susskind
 
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garcol said:
try Quantum Physics: The Theoretical Minimum - Books 1 & 2 - by Susskind
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out.
 
mfb said:
On the theoretical side, particle physics is quantum field theory. Relativistic quantum mechanics helps, which then needs special relativity and nonrelativistic quantum mechanics. Electrodynamics is probably useful to understand special relativity better. Nonrelativistic quantum mechanics relies on concepts introduced in classical mechanics (in particular, Hamilton/Lagrange formalism) and algebra and analysis.

On the experimental side, special relativity is absolutely necessary, if you want to understand the detectors some solid-state physics is necessary, electrodynamics for sure, maybe electronics depending on the level of detail.

I'm sure I forgot some points.

Thanks for your advice, looks like I have some work to do :)
 
ChrisPI said:
I want to start studying particle physics on my own and wanted to know what the prerequisite are? I'm in my second year of college and have finished Calc. 3 and Physics with calc. 3. I'd also be interested in textbook recommendations.

An excellent undergraduate book is Griffiths "Introduction to Elementary Particles"
 
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"Introduction to Elementary Particle Physics" by Alessandro Bettini, and "Particle Physics" by B.R.Martin and G.Shaw are both good and used in many third year introductory courses. Most courses at this level also require an introductory course in quantum physics as a prerequisite, so you need that background.

Also, you can search online for a syllabus, lecture slides, course notes, etc. for an introductory course. That can help you plan your studies.
 
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