Pressure exerted in an elevator

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The problem involves calculating the pressure exerted by a suitcase resting on the floor of an upward-moving elevator, taking into account the suitcase's mass and the elevator's acceleration. The subject area includes concepts of force, pressure, and dynamics in a non-inertial frame.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the forces acting on the suitcase, questioning how to incorporate both gravitational force and the force due to the elevator's acceleration into the calculation of normal force and pressure.

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There is an ongoing exploration of how to calculate the normal force acting on the suitcase, with some participants providing guidance on the necessary components of the force equation. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being considered, particularly regarding the addition of gravitational and acceleration forces.

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Participants are navigating the assumptions related to the forces acting on the suitcase in an accelerating frame, with some uncertainty about the proper approach to combine these forces for pressure calculation.

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A suitcase (mass m=16kg) is resting on the floor of an elevator. The part of the suitcase in contact with the floor measures 0.50m by 0.15m. The elevator is moving upward, the magnitude of its acceleration being 1.5m/s^2. What pressure (in excess of atmospheric pressure) is applied to the floor beneath the suitcase?

This problem isn't too hard. Elevator is going up so the pressure will be greater than normal produced by the suitcase. Take the area of the suitcase and continue from there?
 
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KingTutATL said:
A suitcase (mass m=16kg) is resting on the floor of an elevator. The part of the suitcase in contact with the floor measures 0.50m by 0.15m. The elevator is moving upward, the magnitude of its acceleration being 1.5m/s^2. What pressure (in excess of atmospheric pressure) is applied to the floor beneath the suitcase?

This problem isn't too hard. Elevator is going up so the pressure will be greater than normal produced by the suitcase. Take the area of the suitcase and continue from there?
What is the force exerted on the suitcase by the floor? What is the area over which this force acts? That should be all you need.

AM
 
When calculating the force do I just add 1.5m/s^2 to 9.8m/s^2 and then calculate the force per area from there?
 
KingTutATL said:
When calculating the force do I just add 1.5m/s^2 to 9.8m/s^2 and then calculate the force per area from there?
Conceptually, the acceleration and gravity are different. You would add the force of gravity (weight) which the floor applies with no acceleration, to the force which the elevetor applies to accelerate the suitcase:

[tex]F_{normal} = ma + mg[/tex]

AM
 
Of course, that's just
[tex]F_{normal}= m(a+ g)[/tex]
as KingTutAtl asked.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Of course, that's just
[tex]F_{normal}= m(a+ g)[/tex]
as KingTutAtl asked.
Of course. I should have begun my answer with: "Yes, provided you multiply by the mass". It appeared to me that the op was uncertain as to why you would add them together, since there is no acceleration due to gravity.

AM
 
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