High School Pressure in a viscous liquid versus non-viscous fluids

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The discussion focuses on the definition of fluid pressure as outlined in H.C. Verma's "Concepts of Physics," emphasizing that this definition applies specifically to homogeneous, non-viscous fluids. The author highlights that for viscous fluids, pressure does depend on the orientation of the surface area due to the presence of shear stresses. The conversation also touches on the constitutive equation for Newtonian fluids, which relates viscosity, pressure, and velocity gradients, forming the foundation of fluid dynamics. This equation accounts for both shear and normal stresses, simplifying to an isotropic stress tensor under static conditions. The reference to "Transport Phenomena" by Bird et al. is suggested for further study on the topic.
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Hc verma, concepts of Physics, vol 1 pg 258
"We define pressure of fluid at the point A as : ##P= F/\Delta S##
For a homogeneous and non-viscous fluid, this quantity does not depend on orientation of ##\Delta S## and hence we talk of pressure at a point".

Why did the author stress that the definition holds only for non-viscous fluids?
What happens to viscous fluids? Does the pressure depend on orientation in viscous fluids ?
 
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Are you familiar with with the constitutive equation (rheological equation of state) for a Newtonian fluid in 3D in terms of the fluid viscosity, "pressure," and velocity gradient tensor? This is the more general version of Newton's law of viscosity that we learned about in freshman physics, and forms the basis of most of the fluid dynamics that we work with in practice. It includes not only shear stresses, but normal stress as well. The Newtonian fluid model reduces to an isotropic stress tensor (pressure) in the limit of static equilibrium.
 
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Chestermiller said:
Are you familiar with with the constitutive equation (rheological equation of state) for a Newtonian fluid in 3D in terms of the fluid viscosity, "pressure," and velocity gradient tensor? This is the more general version of Newton's law of viscosity that we learned about in freshman physics, and forms the basis of most of the fluid dynamics that we work with in practice. It includes not only shear stresses, but normal stress as well. The Newtonian fluid model reduces to an isotropic stress tensor (pressure) in the limit of static equilibrium.
Thank you.
No, I've not studied it.
 
Kashmir said:
Thank you.
No, I've not studied it.
See Transport Phenomena by Bird et al
 
Topic about reference frames, center of rotation, postion of origin etc Comoving ref. frame is frame that is attached to moving object, does that mean, in that frame translation and rotation of object is zero, because origin and axes(x,y,z) are fixed to object? Is it same if you place origin of frame at object center of mass or at object tail? What type of comoving frame exist? What is lab frame? If we talk about center of rotation do we always need to specified from what frame we observe?

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