Preventing Jet Fuel Contamination: Helpful Tips and Resources

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The discussion revolves around the topic of jet fuel contamination, specifically focusing on microbial contamination and methods to reduce or prevent it. Participants share insights, resources, and personal experiences related to the subject, which includes theoretical and practical aspects of contamination in aviation fuels.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks information on jet fuel contamination for a research paper, asking for input and resources.
  • Another participant suggests contacting a user named 'FredGarvin', who is involved in jet engine design, for expert insights.
  • Concerns are raised about the definition of contamination, with a focus on contamination occurring during storage or refueling rather than during manufacturing.
  • Several forms of contamination are identified, including bacterial, microbial, foreign objects, water, and ice.
  • Links to various resources and articles on jet fuel contamination are provided by participants.
  • The original poster (OP) clarifies that their focus is specifically on microbial contamination and expresses gratitude for the shared links.
  • Another participant questions whether the OP can create a unique analytical report on microbial contamination, suggesting that much of the work may involve reviewing existing literature.
  • It is mentioned that microbial growth is not exclusive to jet fuel and can also occur in diesel fuel, with a description of its appearance and prevention methods, including regular draining of water and the use of biocides.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of certainty regarding the uniqueness of the OP's analytical report. Some believe the topic has been extensively covered, while others suggest that the OP's background in chemistry may influence their ability to contribute new insights. There is no consensus on the originality of the report or the extent of microbial contamination in jet fuel.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discussion is limited by the OP's initial broad statement about contamination and the need for more specific definitions and contexts. The complexity of microbial growth factors and the existing body of research are acknowledged but not resolved.

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Hi guys, are any of you familiar with jet fuel contamination? I'm doing a research paper on ways to reduce or prevent it. Any input and or links would be appreciated.

Thanks in advanced
 
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I would ask this question to Fred, he designs jet engines for a living.
 
Whoa that's awesome. Thats the career path I want to take. I'm guessing his user name is simply 'Fred' so i can just message him?
 
Jet fuel is made to strict quality control standards.
Why do you think that jet fuel is contaminated?
What is it contaminated with?
 
I think the OP means when it is stored in the aircraft or at the point of refuelling, not how it was manufactured.

to the OP: It's FredGarvin that's into the jet R&D and a pretty helpful guy to boot.
 
You're starting off with a pretty broad statement when you say contamination. I would first research the different forms of contamination that can exist...for example,
- bacterial
- microbial
- foreign object
- water
- ice (akin to water contamination but desrves it's own heading)

As far as links go, there aren't many out there for free. Some of the ones I know of are:
http://www.chevronglobalaviation.com/docs/aviation_tech_review.pdf

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=5&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.burnsmcd.com%2Fportal%2Fpage%2Fportal%2FInternet%2FContent_Admin%2FPublications%2520Repository%2FTechBriefs%2520Link%2520Repository%2Farticle-jetfuelquality-001.pdf&ei=NJ-ZSfCiKKCYNZ3NnfEL&usg=AFQjCNEFtg1AW-APfSIT1G9AJz6eVuuHng&sig2=OPXyRTLdhAXtYU3iD62XBg

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.faa.gov%2Fairports_airtraffic%2Fairports%2Fresources%2Fadvisory_circulars%2Fmedia%2F150-5230-4A%2F150_5230_4a.pdf&ei=vZ-ZSa6OH4TYNPrcoIkM&usg=AFQjCNGk5AsmBIEefrUQ2R2NrgOmChA58g&sig2=rGMev_oqxNgawALaqCpuuA
Others:

http://www.astm.org/BOOKSTORE/PUBS/1005.htm

http://www.crcao.com/reports/aviafuel/CCGFS.htm

http://openlibrary.org/b/OL4487541M

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=8&url=http%3A%2F%2Famd.nbc.gov%2Flibrary%2Fdm%2Ffuel_hb.pdf&ei=VqCZSZrTIJjAtgeG8vGwCw&usg=AFQjCNF346Cdwo6AoaAXFALVnlg7n_Sf6w&sig2=aqiVc5NTWVwfeaCGi-0d8w

http://www.aiaa.org/content.cfm?pageid=406&gTable=mtgpaper&gID=7933
 
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Sorry I didn't state it in my opening statement but its bacterial and microbial. Preferably microbial though. Thank you fred for the links.
 
Basically my report is on "What is microbial contamination in jet fuels and methods to reduce it" Do you think I can create a decent analytical report on this topic? Or will I simply be regurgitating pre-analyzed reports on this topic.
 
Well, considering the vast amount of work done in this area, I can't really see you doing much other than reviewing existing works. Then again, I don't know how much of a chemist you are. It is my understanding that there are not that many aspects to what supports microbial growth...food, water, air... I can't really answer that for you. You need to be the judge after some of your preliminary research.
 
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Ok thank you Fred. I think I will just settle for making a really good analytical report.
 
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Microbial growth is not all that common, and is not just a problem with jet fuel, as it also appears in diesel fuel and other hydrocarbons.. When you do find it the appearance is similar to coffee grounds.
Regular draining of water can prevent it and the fuel also contains a biocide to prevent it.

Here are some sites with more info:
http://www.aviationnews.com.au/News_Stories/Archived_Stories/0059887-FuelFungus_CRC.htm
http://www.dieselsolutions.co.nz/the-diesel-bug.shtml
http://www.monografias.com/trabajos44/the-water-contamination/the-water-contamination2.shtml
http://www.amtonline.com/publication/article.jsp?pubId=1&id=1201&pageNum=2
 
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