Prevention of intrusion (free software)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the issue of encountering unexpected redirects when clicking links on certain websites, specifically within the context of web browsing using Firefox and Chrome. Participants explore potential causes and solutions, including software options to prevent such intrusions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes experiencing redirects to unexpected sites instead of the intended destination when clicking links.
  • Another participant requests clarification on whether this issue occurs across all links or is site-specific.
  • Some participants speculate that the problem may be related to specific websites employing redirection techniques for ad revenue.
  • Concerns are raised about potential malware or changes to system files that could cause such behavior, although some participants suggest that the issue is likely not virus-related.
  • A participant shares a similar experience with a specific website, indicating that cookies might be influencing the behavior of the links.
  • There is a suggestion to manually type URLs into the address bar as a workaround to avoid unwanted redirects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the issue is site-specific and not necessarily related to the user's computer or browser. However, there is no consensus on the exact cause of the problem, with multiple competing views regarding whether it is a feature of the website or a potential malware issue.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the behavior does not appear to be consistent across all websites, indicating that the phenomenon may depend on the specific site being accessed.

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When I am surfing the net there are many times where an intruder comes up and not the site I clicked on. If I repeat clicking on the same spot, eventually the site that was supposed to show up actually does. Is there any software (for Firefox at least) to prevent the intrusion?
 
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can you be more specific? is it happening on ALL links you click on regardless of site or on a particular site only?
 
'An intruder comes up'? Such as? Also, what OS are you running, etc. etc?
 
Routaran said:
can you be more specific? is it happening on ALL links you click on regardless of site or on a particular site only?

I am on Windows 7 - prevously on Windows XP. The browser is Firefox, but it also occurs using Chrome. It doesn't seem to depend on any of these.

It is site specific - it appears that some sites have a means of blocking intruders, while others do not. To clarify - when surfing I will have a web page open with a list of links. For some web pages intruders will appear often when I click on the links. For other web pages there won't be any intrusions.
 
'Intruders will appear'? Like little gnomes? I am very sorry, but I still don't know what you're talking about.
 
Hobin said:
'Intruders will appear'? Like little gnomes? I am very sorry, but I still don't know what you're talking about.

When I click on the link I expect to get a specific website defined by the link. Instead a different website (intruder) appears instead. Repeated clicking the same link often results in other intruders, until, after a few tries, the website that was supposed to appear shows up.
 
just to make sure we understand correctly, I'm going to rephrase your situation.
you go to some site and then say click on a link to google. Then instead of taking you to google, the site forwards you to another site that is NOT google. you click the back button and then try again and again until you eventually get google.

Is this essentially what's happening?
 
It's a pretty easy trick to make it look like you're going to one website but redirect you to someplace else. There are several ways to do it but it's hard to say which type is giving you trouble. An example would be good. Could you right-click on a sample link, select Copy Link Location, and post the URL along with what it said it was sending you to?
 
*agrees with Borg*

It doesn't even have to be a problem with your computer, per se. Do you have more than one computer on the same network? If so, do the other computers have the same problem? (This would of course not exclude the possibility of a virus of some sort, but would make it more likely someone's been messing with your router 'n stuff.)
 
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Some viruses make changes to the WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file in order to redirect your browser. But, I would still like to see the full URL before going down that path.
 
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Borg said:
Some viruses make changes to the WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file in order to redirect your browser. But, I would still like to see the full URL before going down that path.

Another problem is that it also wouldn't make a lot of sense. If that were the case, then the wrong site should show up *every time* he clicks a particular URL.
 
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Interesting. I ran into a similar problem this morning. I was searching the Oracle website which has a modified Google search specific to their site. When I manually changed the address to www.google.com, it kept returning to the Oracle search page. I had to open Google in a different tab to get it to load correctly. Probably a cookie that was specific to the tab.
 
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Routaran said:
just to make sure we understand correctly, I'm going to rephrase your situation.
you go to some site and then say click on a link to google. Then instead of taking you to google, the site forwards you to another site that is NOT google. you click the back button and then try again and again until you eventually get google.

Is this essentially what's happening?

Yes.

To answer other questions - it is site specific, i.e. site A has a list of links and it may happen on any of the links, while site B has a different list and it never happens. It doesn't appear there are any viruses involved. The phenomenom has nothing to do with the computer or the browser, only the particular source web site.
 
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Is it, by any chance, http://www.randomwebsite.com ? :-p

Joking aside, since it happens on a particular site, do you mind telling us which one of the so-many-billion it is?
 
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mathman said:
Yes.

To answer other questions - it is site specific, i.e. site A has a list of links and it may happen on any of the links, while site B has a different list and it never happens. It doesn't appear there are any viruses involved. The phenomenom has nothing to do with the computer or the browser, only the particular source web site.
I'm strongly leaning towards this being a "feature" of the site itself and not anything on your computer. There are many sites that try to generate ad revenue for themselves by redirecting you to their sponsors instead of going to the link you actually want to. There's really not much you can do to get around this problem other than looking at the link address and manually typing that into your address bar to avoid clicking on the link itself. I cannot conclusively say that this is the case without looking at the site itself but given the fact that its happening with only this one site and not all the others, I'd be shocked if it was something else.
This is unfortunately the reality with using some sites, they may be dishonest and if you need to use the services they provide, then you have to put up with the inconvenience of having to go back and forth or just manually typing in the link address.
 
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mathman said:
Yes.

To answer other questions - it is site specific, i.e. site A has a list of links and it may happen on any of the links, while site B has a different list and it never happens. It doesn't appear there are any viruses involved. The phenomenom has nothing to do with the computer or the browser, only the particular source web site.
URLs??
 

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