The discussion focuses on the relationship between definite integrals and the principle of least action, specifically in the context of Goldstein's derivation. A question is raised about the mathematical theorem related to definite integrals and the expression involving variations at the endpoints. It is clarified that the approximation of the integral over a small interval relies on evaluating the function at a point within that interval, which is justified by the smallness of the deltas. The use of Taylor expansion is suggested as a method to understand the reasoning behind the evaluation of the function at the endpoints. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the nuances of applying definite integrals in the context of action principles.
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Ben Geoffrey
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This is with regard to my doubt in the derivation of the principle of least of action in Goldstein
Is there any theorem in math about definite integrals like this ∫a+cb+df(x)dx = f(a)c-f(b)d
The relevant portion of the derivation is given in the image.
That only works when the variations in the endpoints are small. The integral over a small interval is approx. the function value at a point in the interval times the width of the interval.
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Ben Geoffrey
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But why is the variation due to ends points L(t2)Δt2 - L(t1)Δt1 rather than L(t2 +Δt2) - L(t1 +Δt1) . Makes more sense if it is L(t2 +Δt2) - L(t1 +Δt1)
But why is the variation due to ends points L(t2)Δt2 - L(t1)Δt1 rather than L(t2 +Δt2) - L(t1 +Δt1) . Makes more sense if it is L(t2 +Δt2) - L(t1 +Δt1)
If the deltas are small it makes no difference where you evaluate the function within the small interval.
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