Probability (balls in a bucket)

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The discussion revolves around a probability problem involving drawing colored balls from a bucket containing 2 blue balls and 1 white ball. Participants are tasked with finding the probability mass functions for the number of blue balls (X), white balls (Y), and total draws (Z) until at least 2 blue and 2 white balls are drawn.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are exploring the definitions of probability mass functions (pmf) and discussing the implications of the minimum draws required for X, Y, and Z. Questions are raised about specific probabilities, such as P(Z=1) and P(Z<4), and the reasoning behind why these probabilities are zero.

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Some participants are attempting to clarify the reasoning behind the calculations presented in the solutions, while others are questioning specific steps and interpretations of the pmf. There is an ongoing exploration of how to systematically approach the problem and the conditions that must be met for the probabilities to be valid.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem, particularly the requirement to draw at least 2 blue and 2 white balls, which influences the minimum values for X, Y, and Z. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the provided solutions and the need for further clarification.

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Q: 2 blue balls and 1 white ball are in a bucket. You draw one ball at a time, record the color of the ball and put it back to the bucket until you get at least 2 blue balls and 2 white balls. Let X be the number of blue balls you drew, Y be the number of white balls you drew, Z be the number of balls you drew. What is the probability mass functions of X,Y, and Z? (i.e. give the probabilities of all the possible outcomes for X,Y,Z, respectively)

I understand the question, but don't understand the solution. Can someone please explain/help me out?

Thanks a lot!
 
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Are you saying you don't understand a given answer? Or are you saying you don't "see" the solution?

What is the prob. z = 1? (It's zero. Why?)
What's the prob z < 4? (Again 0.)
Prob{z=4} = number of ways 2B+2W balls can be obtained/number of all color combinations in 4 draws
 
Just work on it systematically. First of all, you know what a pmf is:

pX(x) = P(X = x)

-- pY(y) and pZ(z) are defined similarly.

Now, if X is the number of blue balls drawn, we know that X must be *at least* 2, because we're not going to *stop* drawing balls out until we get two blue ones. Therefore:

pX(x) = 0 for x < 2
likewise for pY(y)

similarly, pZ(z) must be zero for z < 4, because that's the minimum number of draws required to get 2 blue and 2 white. So, that's a start...
 
I don't understand a given answer...

According to the solutions:

P(X=2)=(3C1) (2/3)2 (1/3)2 + (2C1) (2/3) (1/3)2 + (1/3)2
P(X=3)=(4C1) (2/3)2 (1/3)2
...

P(Z=4)=(4C3) (2/3)2 (1/3)2
P(Z=5)=P(X=5-2)+P(Y=5-2)
...


But I don't get it...can someone please explain? :)
 

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