Probability of being struck by lightning

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The discussion revolves around the risks of being struck by lightning while mountain climbing, particularly during rainy conditions. Participants explore preventive measures and share personal experiences related to thunderstorms in mountainous areas.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the high probability of being struck by lightning during treks that encounter rain 40% of the time, questioning the lack of lightning rods on mountains.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of checking weather reports and avoiding climbing during predicted thunderstorms, suggesting specific safety measures if caught in a storm.
  • A different contribution highlights the danger of ground currents from lightning strikes, noting that they can be fatal even at a distance of 30 meters from the strike.
  • One participant mentions that Colorado has a high incidence of lightning and advises climbers to start early and descend before noon to mitigate risks.
  • Another participant reflects on the beauty of thunderstorms from a distance, contrasting it with the fear of being outdoors during such events.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the dangers posed by thunderstorms while climbing and the importance of monitoring weather conditions. However, there are varying perspectives on the beauty of thunderstorms and their allure, which may influence climbing decisions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific safety measures and personal experiences, but there is no consensus on the effectiveness of these measures or the overall probability of being struck by lightning.

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Supposing I am a frequent mountain climber who encounters rains in 40% of the treks,
what measures could I take to prevent myself being struck by lightening? Isn't the probality
of my getting struck with the lightning just too high, assuming that most of the
mountains "do not" have a "lightening rod"?
 
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dharm0us said:
Supposing I am a frequent mountain climber who encounters rains in 40% of the treks,
what measures could I take to prevent myself being struck by lightening? Isn't the probality
of my getting struck with the lightning just too high, assuming that most of the
mountains "do not" have a "lightening rod"?

Yes, this is very dangerous. Check weather reports and don't go if thunderstorms are predicted. If you get caught in one, stay low to the ground - don't be on horseback, lay flat on ground if lightning is immanently close. If (somehow :smile:) a car is reachable, get to it as safely as possible. Don't go under a single tree because that tree is a target and will offer you little protection if it is hit. However, if you can find a canopy of many trees, this is preferable to an open area. If in a forest, stay in there but stay as far away as possible from anyone tree. Lay flat on the ground and spread arms and legs out as wide as possible. Also, keep aware and be ready to run from a falling tree or branch.
 
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The risk is large, if you are regularly in the outdoors during thunderstorms. The problem is that even if a lightning bolt does not pass through you directly, they produce electric currents in the ground that can be fatal up to 30 meters (100 feet) away from the strike.

There is no rubber-soled foot gear or any other personal equipment which can substantially reduce the danger in a lightning storm.

In short, there are only two things you can do to decrease your risk:

1) Follow the weather forecast and be observant of the weather, and always leave the mountain at the first sign of lightning.

2) If you are caught in a lightning storm, look for cover in a canopy of trees as suggested above, and crouch down on the balls of your feet.

Good luck safely enjoying the outdoors!
 
By states, Colorado has the second highest incidence of lightning (after Florida). The rule here is to start climbing early and be off the top and well down by noon.
 
marcusl said:
By states, Colorado has the second highest incidence of lightning (after Florida). The rule here is to start climbing early and be off the top and well down by noon.

But, aren't those thunderstorms beautiful and awesome! I saw one at Snowmass in the summer and thought I was entering the gates of heaven.
 
Beautiful to look at from a distance, terrifying to be outdoors in!
 

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