Probability of one-photon loss from a cavity

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The discussion centers on the probability of one-photon loss from a cavity within a specified time interval, exploring its mathematical formulation and underlying assumptions. Participants examine the relationship to Fermi's golden rule and the implications of photon number on decay rates, with a focus on theoretical frameworks and interpretations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the derivation of the probability equation for one-photon loss, suggesting it resembles Fermi's golden rule but is not identical.
  • Another participant requests a source for the equation, speculating on its connection to a specific model Lagrangian or Hamiltonian.
  • A third participant provides a reference to a book that discusses the probability being proportional to the expectation value of the number of photons in the cavity, questioning the basis for this assumption.
  • One participant asserts that the decay rate, ##\kappa##, is related to the number of photons, drawing an analogy to radioactive decay, while noting the complexities introduced by quantum mechanics and the limitations of the exponential decay law.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the assumptions underlying the probability equation and its relation to Fermi's golden rule. There is no consensus on the exact interpretation of ##\kappa## or the validity of the exponential decay law in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations in the assumptions regarding the relationship between photon number and decay probability, as well as the implications of quantum mechanics on traditional decay models.

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Why is the probability of one-photon loss from a cavity in the time interval ##[t, t+\delta t]## is:
##\kappa \delta t\langle \psi(t)| \hat{a}^{\dagger}\hat{a} |\psi(t)\rangle##
where ##\kappa## is the decay rate. It looks like the Fermi Golden rule but it's not exactly it.
 
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Do you have a source for this equation? I guess, it's indeed an application of Fermi's golden rule, but from which model Lagrangian/Hamiltonian?
 
For example here: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=UnTNBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=cavity+probability+of+emitting+a+photon&source=bl&ots=ivGtnIlmCz&sig=6qJjKian0MrATDeRY9nt4pDA1xQ&hl=el&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiPlq7C9LvPAhVIdR4KHejJD3EQ6AEIODAE#v=onepage&q=cavity probability of emitting a photon&f=false

page 37, equaiton (2.41).

They assume that this probability is proportional to the expectation value of the number of photon in the cavity. Based on what is this assumption?
Also, is ##\kappa## defined as the average number of photons that leak out of cavity per unit of time or as the probability of loosing a photon per unit of time?
 
It's the number of photons. It's a reasonable assumption that it is the more probable to loose a photon the more photons are there. It's like the radioactive-decay law: The rate at which a nucleus decays is proportional to the number of nuclei present. This leads to the usual exponential decay. Quantum-theoretically that's a bit more tricky. Strictly speaking the exponential decay law cannot be exactly right (due to unitarity of time evolution). See, e.g., the textbook by Sakurai, Modern Quantum Mechanics, 2nd ed., Addison-Wesley.
 

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