Probability that an exact copy of something can exist in a very large universe

  • Context: Undergrad 
  • Thread starter Thread starter zachfoltz
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Probability Universe
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the probability of an exact copy of a person existing in a vast universe, specifically referencing a googolplex and the estimated number of states of particles in a person's volume, which is approximately 1070. Despite the universe's immense size of about 10100 meters, the likelihood of an exact molecular replica of a person is low due to the non-random arrangement of molecules. Participants agree that while calculations can estimate probabilities, certainty is unattainable, particularly for complex structures like human beings.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic probability theory
  • Familiarity with molecular biology concepts
  • Knowledge of cosmology and the scale of the universe
  • Basic grasp of statistical mechanics
NEXT STEPS
  • Research "probability theory in cosmology" to understand the implications of vast scales
  • Explore "molecular biology and human structure" to grasp the complexity of human composition
  • Study "statistical mechanics" for insights into particle arrangements
  • Investigate "randomness in molecular combinations" to differentiate between random and structured arrangements
USEFUL FOR

This discussion is beneficial for physicists, cosmologists, biologists, and anyone interested in the implications of probability in the context of the universe's vastness and the complexity of human molecular structures.

zachfoltz
Messages
27
Reaction score
0
I was watching a video about googolplex which can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GEebx72-qs&feature=etp-pd-n05-40

my question is: even if the "number of states" of all the particles of the volume a person takes up is 101070 and the universe was 1010100 meters, it would not mean that there must be an exact copy of that person (all the particles in the same state) somewhere in the universe. It seems more likely that there will be many more "exact copies" of clouds of hydrogen gas, and exact copies of small clouds of dust, but only a chance (relatively low for that matter) that there is another "exact copy" person.

I may be wrong, I'm a little bit confused. Thanks for any help its much appreciated!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Yes, that't true. You can (all of those numbers are very rough estimates, of course) calculate the probability that a person's molecular structure is exactly reproduced but it will never be "certain". Also important is that those calculations are typically based on random combinations of molecules and the molecules in a person are certainly not random combinations.
 

Similar threads

Replies
147
Views
11K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
Replies
90
Views
12K
  • · Replies 116 ·
4
Replies
116
Views
18K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
6K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
6K
Replies
29
Views
6K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
822
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
5K