Problem Introducing Me to Sliding Friction

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving a box being lifted using a pulley system with sliding friction. The key question is determining the minimum force required on the rope to lift the box, given its weight (W), the pulley radius (r), and the sliding friction coefficient (μ). The solution requires using integration techniques to demonstrate that the minimum force is Weπμ. Participants emphasize understanding the relationship between friction, forces, and the geometry of the setup to approach the problem effectively.

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I'm going through the problems at the back of a chapter in my physics book where all the challenging questions are. I'm able to solve most and comprehend the rest, however, there's one that's introducing a new concept that I'm not quite sure how to think about.

Its a situation where I'm pulling a box with weight W up utilizing a pulley with radius r and a sliding friction coefficient μ. What is the minimum force on the rope downward on the rope needed to lift the box?

The question says to use an integration technique, and says to show that it's Weπμ.

I'm not quite sure how to think about this; and knowing that I need to use an integration technique to solve it is throwing me off as well.

I'm quite knowledgeable of single variable calculus and I'm not looking for an answer, I'm just looking for some help in how to think about this problem, and perhaps some guidance pointing me in a direction to go about solving this problem or dealing with this situation.

Thank you.
 
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From your description it sounds like a rope over a pully that has friction. ... weight+friction opposes the motion ... how is friction related to the forces and the geometry of the setup?
 

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