Problem involving Newton's Law of Gravitation

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving Newton's Law of Gravitation, specifically calculating the acceleration due to gravity on a hypothetical planet with a mass half that of Earth and a radius twice that of Earth.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to equate gravitational force equations and simplify them to find the acceleration due to gravity. Some participants suggest expressing the planet's mass and radius in terms of Earth's values to facilitate the calculation. Others question whether substituting numerical values for constants is necessary or if a more straightforward algebraic approach suffices.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing hints and suggestions for rewriting equations. There is a recognition of the relationship between the gravitational acceleration on Earth and the planet, with some guidance offered on how to simplify the expressions. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

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Some participants express uncertainty about whether their approaches involve unnecessary complexity, indicating a potential for differing interpretations of the problem's requirements.

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1. A planet has a mass 1/2 that of Earth and a radius 2 times that of Earth. What is the acceleration due to gravity on the surface of the planet in terms of g?



2.
a)F=G*m1*m2/r[tex]^{2}[/tex]
b)F=mg



3. I figured that I would let the two equations equal to each other so...

G*m1*m2/r[tex]^{2}[/tex]=mg
It simplifies to be g=G*m/r[tex]^{2}[/tex]
However, I don't know where to go from there to get the acceleration in terms of g.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
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You're on the right track. Maybe rewriting it this way will give you a hint:
[tex]g_{earth} = G M_{earth}/R_{earth}^2[/tex]

(Express M and R for the planet in terms of M and R for the earth.)
 
Doc Al said:
You're on the right track. Maybe rewriting it this way will give you a hint:
[tex]g_{earth} = G M_{earth}/R_{earth}^2[/tex]

(Express M and R for the planet in terms of M and R for the earth.)

So then you would get this correct:

[tex]g_{earth} = G (1/2)M_{earth}/(2*R_{earth})^2[/tex]

Which you can then simplify to be:

[tex]g_{earth} = G M_{earth}/8R_{earth}[/tex]

However, I don't know where to go from there to find the acceleration:confused:
 
collide said:
So then you would get this correct:

[tex]g_{earth} = G (1/2)M_{earth}/(2*R_{earth})^2[/tex]
Almost. You'd get:

[tex]g_{planet} = G M_{planet}/R_{planet}^2[/tex]

[tex]g_{planet} = G (1/2)M_{earth}/(2*R_{earth})^2[/tex]

Which simplifies to:

[tex]g_{planet} = (1/8) G M_{earth}/R_{earth}^2[/tex]

I'll leave it to you to interpret the right hand side in terms of g for earth.
 
Should I plug in the values for M_earth, R_earth, and G to find out what g_planet equals?

And then I do g_planet=(g/x) to solve for x to find out in terms of what value for g is right? Doing this method... I get accelerated is g/8. However, is the proper way to solve this problem or am I doing more work than required?
 
collide said:
Should I plug in the values for M_earth, R_earth, and G to find out what g_planet equals?

And then I do g_planet=(g/x) to solve for x to find out in terms of what value for g is right? Doing this method... I get accelerated is g/8. However, is the proper way to solve this problem or am I doing more work than required?
That's definitely the hard way. We already determined that the acceleration due to gravity on the planet equals:

[tex]g_{planet} = (1/8) G M_{earth}/R_{earth}^2[/tex]

But you should recognize the equation we stated with:

[tex]g_{earth} = G M_{earth}/R_{earth}^2[/tex]

Substituting this last equation into the first gives:

[tex]g_{planet} = (1/8) g_{earth} = g/8[/tex]

That's all you need to do--no calculations needed.
 
Thanks for the help, Doc Al!
 

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