Problem involving square / square root of a complex number

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The problem involves finding the value of a positive real number \( n \) given the equation \( z = (n + i)^{2} \) and the condition that the argument of \( z \) is \( \frac{\pi}{3} \). The discussion centers around the relationships between the arguments of complex numbers and their squares.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the argument of a complex number and its square, questioning how to apply the given argument condition. There are attempts to compare the arguments of both sides of the equation and to derive relationships using trigonometric identities.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various approaches to equate the arguments of the complex expressions involved. Some participants have provided insights into the properties of arguments in complex numbers, while others have reiterated their findings without reaching a consensus on the method of solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may involve assumptions about the range of the argument and the implications of squaring complex numbers. There is also mention of potential simplifications regarding the periodic nature of the argument function.

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Homework Statement
[itex]z = (n + i)^{2}[/itex]

[itex]n[/itex] is a positive real number, and [itex]arg(z) = \frac{\pi}{3}[/itex]

Find the value of [itex]n[/itex].

The attempt at a solution

I am reviewing old problem sets from years past, and came across this problem that appears pretty simple. I have my old answer as [itex]n=\sqrt{3}[/itex], which I can verify numerically as the correct answer. The problem is that I no longer remember the solution, and think I am missing a simple solution to this. We know the following:

[itex]z^{1/2} = n + i[/itex]
[itex]arg(n + i) = arctan(\frac{1}{n})[/itex]
[itex]tan(arg(z)) = \sqrt{3}[/itex]

I think there must be some way to compare the arguments of the 2 sides and use the given fact that [itex]arg(z) = \frac{\pi}{3}[/itex] for a simple solution, but I don't see what it is. I am not sure how to deal with the square in the original problem statement, or the square root in my first equation.
 
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If x is a complex number, how is arg(x) related to arg(x^2)? exp(it)^2=exp(2it), right?
 
Expand the right-hand side of the equation and compare the tangent of the arguments of both sides.

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So in my case:
[itex]arg(z^{1/2})=\frac{1}{2}arg(z)[/itex]
Then if we take [itex]z^{1/2}=n+i[/itex] and set the argument of each side equal, we have:
[itex]arg(z^{1/2})=arg(n+i)[/itex]
[itex]\frac{1}{2}\frac{\pi}{3}=arctan(\frac{1}{n})[/itex]
[itex]\frac{\pi}{6} = arctan(\frac{1}{n})[/itex]
Taking the tangent of both sides:
[itex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}=\frac{1}{n}[/itex]
Thus:
[itex]n=\sqrt{3}[/itex]
 
shillist said:
So in my case:
[itex]arg(z^{1/2})=\frac{1}{2}arg(z)[/itex]
Then if we take [itex]z^{1/2}=n+i[/itex] and set the argument of each side equal, we have:
[itex]arg(z^{1/2})=arg(n+i)[/itex]
[itex]\frac{1}{2}\frac{\pi}{3}=arctan(\frac{1}{n})[/itex]
[itex]\frac{\pi}{6} = arctan(\frac{1}{n})[/itex]
Taking the tangent of both sides:
[itex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}=\frac{1}{n}[/itex]
Thus:
[itex]n=\sqrt{3}[/itex]

That's it. We can be a little bit sloppy about 2*pi factors in the arg because we know that 0<arg(1+n)<pi/2.
 
Thanks for the help!
 

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