Problem simplifying v*dv/dt to get d/dt(V^2/2)

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The discussion focuses on simplifying the expression V dV/dt to derive d/dt(V^2/2) using calculus concepts. It identifies that this simplification involves the chain rule and product rule, where velocity and acceleration are treated as functions of time. Participants clarify that manipulating expressions to represent derivatives is a common technique in physics, often leading to conservation laws, such as energy conservation. The connection between physical concepts and mathematical functions is emphasized, highlighting the importance of understanding these relationships. Overall, the thread seeks clarity on the calculus principles behind this simplification.
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Homework Statement


we know dV/dt = a from the definition of acceleration
multiplying by sides by V, velocity yields
V dV/dt = aV
Left side can be reduced to d/dt(V^2/2)

so to be more clear, just looking at the left side
V dV/dt = d/dt( V^2/2)

I want to know what calculus topic that's addressed in, and how it works because I don't see it.

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It's just a chain rule. Let f(t) = v(t) and f'(t) = a(t). Then {d \over dt} {f(t)^2 \over 2} = f(t)f'(t)

All you're doing is assigning physical concepts (velocity, acceleration) to mathematical ideas (functions of a parameter, t)
 
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Thank you very much pengwuino. I would never have thought of that.
 
I'm probably missing something obvious here. Can't find anything in the chain rule that explains this simplification. Can somebody elaborate this more?
 
You can explain it as either the chain rule or the product rule.

Chain rule: \frac{ds}{dt} = \frac{ds}{dv} \frac{dv}{dt}. Let s = v^2, which gives \frac{ds}{dt} = (2v)\frac{dv}{dt}.

Product rule: \frac{d}{dt} ab = \frac{da}{dt} b + a \frac{db}{dt}. Let a=b=v.

In general, this technique of manipulating an expression to turn it into a derivative of something else is useful because you can often use that to write some kind of conservation law. In this case, dealing with \frac{d}{dt} \frac{v^2}{2} was probably leading up to invoking conservation of energy (only a factor of mass is missing).
 
could you also think of it as: since you added a v to the right you must make the left match by first taking the anti derivative of v>>>(1/2)v^2?
 
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