Problem using centripital accel.... Can you check my work?

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A student calculates the angular velocity of a rock swung in a horizontal circle at a 16-degree angle, determining it to be 56.9 rpm. The solution involves calculating the tension in the string and using the equations for centripetal force and linear velocity. An alternative method is suggested, involving the relationship between gravitational and centripetal acceleration expressed through the tangent of the angle. Both methods yield the same angular velocity, confirming the student's calculations. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the forces at play in circular motion.
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Homework Statement



A student ties a 500 g rock to a 1.0-m-long string and swings it around her head in a horizontal circle.
At what angular velocity in rpm does the string tilt down at a 16 degree angle?

Homework Equations



F = (m*v^2)/r
v = r*w

The Attempt at a Solution


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First I solved for the tension in the string...

∑Fy = 0

T*sin(16°) - mg = 0
T*sin(16°) = mg
T = 17.776 N

Next I solved for the linear velocity

ΣFx = m*a

Tx = 17.776cos(16°)
r = sin(74°)
17.776cos(16°) = ((.5kg)*v^2)/(sin(74°)
Solve for linear velocity --> 5.73 m/s

v = r*w
Solve for omega and I got 5.96 rad/s

Convert to rpm and I got 56.9 rpm.
 
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I get the same values.
 
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mfb said:
I get the same values.
Awesome, thank you!
 
You've found a valid solution, well done. Since you've arrived at the answer I'm free to show you an alternative method.

If you make a drawing of the scenario and consider the accelerations experienced by the rock you'll see that the ratio of the gravitational acceleration to the centripetal acceleration will be equal to the tan of the angle. In this diagram the negative of the centripetal acceleration (red vector) is shown for clarity:

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So that ##tan(θ) = \frac{g}{ω^2 r}##, where: ##r = L cos(θ)##. With a bit of rearranging and simplifying this becomes:

##ω = \sqrt{\frac{g}{L sin(θ)}}##

which should yield the same value for ω that you found.
 
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gneill said:
You've found a valid solution, well done. Since you've arrived at the answer I'm free to show you an alternative method.

If you make a drawing of the scenario and consider the accelerations experienced by the rock you'll see that the ratio of the gravitational acceleration to the centripetal acceleration will be equal to the tan of the angle. In this diagram the negative of the centripetal acceleration (red vector) is shown for clarity:

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So that ##tan(θ) = \frac{g}{ω^2 r}##, where: ##r = L cos(θ)##. With a bit of rearranging and simplifying this becomes:

##ω = \sqrt{\frac{g}{L sin(θ)}}##

which should yield the same value for ω that you found.

Thank you! I'll remember that :)
 
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