Problem with the Finite Element Method applied to Electrostatics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the Finite Element Method (FEM) to solve the Poisson equation in the context of electrostatics, specifically addressing challenges related to modeling a line charge and its effects on the electrostatic potential.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their successful use of a code for solving the Poisson equation in temperature problems but encounters difficulties when applying it to an electrostatic problem involving a line charge.
  • The participant mentions using the Dirac delta function to represent the charge density but reports incorrect results from their code.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the original question and requests clarification, suggesting the need for a visual representation of the problem.
  • A participant reflects on past methods of solving similar problems without modern computational tools, indicating a generational gap in approaches to the topic.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the best approach to model the line charge or the specifics of the electrostatic problem, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved questions.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the charge density representation and the specifics of the electrostatic setup, which remain unresolved.

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Individuals interested in computational methods for solving electrostatic problems, particularly those using the Finite Element Method, may find this discussion relevant.

Alan Lins Alves
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Hi!
I have a code that solve the poisson equation for FEM in temperature problems.
I tested the code for temperature problems and it works!

Now i have to solve an Electrostatic problem.
There is the mesh of my problem (img 01).

At the left side of the mesh we have V=0 (potencial).
There is a line charge located in (0.5,0) with charge density λ=1/(4*pi).

The poisson equation for electrostatics is:
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My dificulty is how to solve it for a line charge (what is the best equation for ρ). I used the Dirac delta, and some aproximations for delta function but my code has wrong results.
 

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Anyone can help me?
Please
 
wow
it's been fifty+ years and the term "Dirac delta" is unfamiliar
and in my day we didn't have computers with precoded solutions .

In slide rule days we'd integrate along the line.

sorry i can't be more help.

old jim
 
Alan Lins Alves said:
I tested the code for temperature problems and it works
Hi,

then how did you specify a pointlike heat source ?
 
jim hardy said:
wow
it's been fifty+ years and the term "Dirac delta" is unfamiliar
and in my day we didn't have computers with precoded solutions .

In slide rule days we'd integrate along the line.

sorry i can't be more help.

old jim

Ok,
Thanks old Jim!
 
BvU said:
Hi,

then how did you specify a pointlike heat source ?

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This is the Poisson equation for temperature problem.
Note that temperature is in left side of equation.
 

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Alan,
I've done a lot of electrostatic calculations, analytical, numerical and FEA. However, I don't quite understand your question.
Could you elaborate on it? Draw a picture without a mesh to start with.
Are you trying to calculate the field of a charged wire next to a ground plane?
 

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