Product of Diagonal Entries and Eigenvalues in nxn Matrix Proofs?

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The discussion revolves around proving that the product of the diagonal entries of an nxn matrix A equals the product of the eigenvalues of A. Participants are exploring the validity of this statement and its conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants suggest examining the characteristic polynomial and its coefficients, while others question the generality of the statement, noting exceptions in specific matrices. There is also mention of the Jordan Normal Form as a potential approach.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have pointed out that the statement may not hold for all matrices, while others have acknowledged that it is true for diagonal matrices. There is a recognition of the relationship between the determinant and the product of the eigenvalues, but the discussion remains open regarding the implications of the (-1)^N factor.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original statement may only be true for certain types of matrices, and there is a focus on understanding the conditions under which the statement holds. The lack of initial attempts from the original poster has also influenced the direction of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Prove that the product of the diagonal entries of an nxn matrix A equals the product of the eigenvalues of A.



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You have to show at least some attempt first before anyone will help.
 
Since you haven't tried the problem I won't provide much help, but I will say a couple of vague hints

(a) this is a standard textbook result, see if it's in your book first
(b) examine the coefficients of the characteristic polynomial carefully
 
The problem with you not showing any work is that we have no idea what kind of facts you have to work with. I can think of several different ways of proving that, depending upon how "sophiticated" you want to be.

The very quickest would involve using the "Jordan Normal Form"- do you know what that is?
 
But it's not even true!? Take A=[[0,1],[1,0]]. Product of the eigenvalues is -1. Product of the diagonal entries is 0. Am I missing something?
 
ltrane2003 said:

Homework Statement


Prove that the product of the diagonal entries of an nxn matrix A equals the product of the eigenvalues of A.

That is not true for all matrices...only in certain types of matrices is that true.
 
The product of the eigenvalues is the determinant, right. The statement would be true for a diagonal matrix for sure :)
 
Yes, it is true (and is trivial) for every diagonal matrix. But that is a very small subset of all matrices.
 
Dick said:
But it's not even true!? Take A=[[0,1],[1,0]]. Product of the eigenvalues is -1. Product of the diagonal entries is 0. Am I missing something?

Both the eigenvalues are zero.

For a diagonal matrix the determinant is just the product of the diagonals.

The eiganvalues are |xI-A|...
 
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Vid said:
Both the eigenvalues are zero.

For a diagonal matrix the determinant is just the product of the diagonals.

The eiganvalues are |xI-A|...

A*[1,1]=[1,1]. That doesn't look like a zero eigenvector to me.
 
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Yea, my statement about your matrix was wrong.

Diagonal matrices have 0 everywhere but the diagonal. Your matrix is symmetric.
 
  • #12
AstroRoyale said:
The product of the eigenvalues is the determinant, right. The statement would be true for a diagonal matrix for sure :)

Yeah I totally screwed up, the OP never returned but I'll just say what I was thinking-- the constant term in the characteristic polynomial is known to be the determinant of the matrix, call it A, but also if you factor the polynomial knowing that it's roots are the eigenvalues [tex]\lambda_i[/tex] then the constant term is also

[tex](-1)^N\prod_{i=1}^{N}\lambda_i[/tex]

and there you have it--

[tex]\prod_{i=1}^{N}\lambda_i = (-1)^N\det A[/tex]

where A is an N by N matrix.
 
  • #13
DavidWhitbeck said:
Yeah I totally screwed up, the OP never returned but I'll just say what I was thinking-- the constant term in the characteristic polynomial is known to be the determinant of the matrix, call it A, but also if you factor the polynomial knowing that it's roots are the eigenvalues [tex]\lambda_i[/tex] then the constant term is also

[tex](-1)^N\prod_{i=1}^{N}\lambda_i[/tex]

and there you have it--

[tex]\prod_{i=1}^{N}\lambda_i = (-1)^N\det A[/tex]

where A is an N by N matrix.

Now you have to explain away that (-1)^N. It shouldn't be there. If I is the NxN identity. det(I)=1 and the product of the eigenvalues is certainly 1.
 
  • #14
Ah yeah the constant term in the characteristic polynomial is not [tex]\det A[/tex] it's [tex](-1)^N\det A[/tex] and then we have instead

[tex]\prod_{i=1}^{N}\lambda_i = \det A[/tex]
 

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