Projectile Motion: Achieving a Semicircular Trajectory without Calculus

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The discussion revolves around the conditions necessary for a projectile to achieve a semicircular trajectory, specifically without the use of calculus. Participants explore the implications of initial release angle, velocity, and variations in gravitational acceleration, such as on the Moon.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the feasibility of achieving a semicircular trajectory under the "near-earth approximation," suggesting that all trajectories are either parabolic or straight lines due to the constant gravitational field.
  • Another participant proposes an alternative method involving tying a rope to the projectile and anchoring it, allowing for a semicircular arc when fired straight up with sufficient velocity.
  • A later reply humorously references a historical weapon concept involving synchronized cannonballs connected by a chain, implying a similar principle of constrained motion.

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Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views on the possibility of achieving a semicircular trajectory and the methods to do so.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about gravitational constancy and the nature of projectile motion, which may not hold in all scenarios. The feasibility of achieving a semicircular trajectory without calculus remains unresolved.

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Hey Folks!
I've got a longish one-
At what angle must you release a projectile to achieve a semicircular trajectory(neglecting air-resistance)? Would the initial release velocity matter? and would the same criteria hold true if the value of g were different(on the moon for example)? and is there any way of proving all this without calculus?
 
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Are you looking at the "near-earth approximation", where the gravitational field ##\vec{g}=\text{const}##. Then you never have a semicircular trajektory, because all trajectories are either parabolae or straigt lines, as can be easily seen solving the equation of motion,
$$\ddot{\vec{x}}=\vec{g}.$$
Since ##\vec{g}=\text{const}## you just have to integrate twice with respect to ##t## and working in the intia conditions,
$$\vec{x}(t)=\vec{x}_0 + \vec{v}_0 t +\frac{1}{2} \vec{g} t^2.$$
You can of course have circular orbits around the Earth, for which
$$\vec{g}=-G m_{\text{earth}} \vec{r}/r^3,$$
where now the coordinate origin is at the center of the Earth.

This problem is of course a bit more difficult to solve, but you find it in any textbook on mechanics (just look for "Kepler problem").
 
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Another option would be to tie a rope to the projectile, anchor the rope some distance away, and fire the projectile straight up with some minimum velocity. That would cause the projectile to travel in a semi-circular arc, centered at the anchor point on the ground. :wink:
 
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Thanks. Makes it clear.
 

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