Projectile motion trajectories differing from 45 degrees

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of projectile motion, specifically addressing the claim that trajectories differing from 45 degrees by the same amount yield the same range. Participants explore the mathematical relationships involved in proving this assertion.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that for 2-dimensional projectile motion, a trajectory of 45 degrees yields the greatest range and questions how to demonstrate that angles differing from 45 degrees by the same amount will yield the same range.
  • Another participant suggests calculating sin(90+c) and sin(90-c) to explore the relationship further.
  • A participant references the sine addition formula to analyze the situation, noting that it simplifies to sin(a)cos(B) due to the properties of cosine at 90 degrees.
  • Further clarification is provided that it is cos(c) in both cases, emphasizing the role of sine and cosine values in the calculations.
  • One participant expresses confusion about how the mathematical exploration directly addresses the original question regarding proving equal ranges for angles 45 + c and 45 - c.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants are engaged in a mathematical exploration, but there is no consensus on how to conclusively prove the original claim regarding the ranges of the angles. Some participants are focused on the mathematical identities, while others seek a direct answer to the initial question.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of sine and cosine functions, and the participants are navigating through mathematical identities without resolving the proof of equal ranges for the specified angles.

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Hi guys, I am stuck with a problem here.
First, It is given that for 2-dimensional projectile motion, a trajectory of 45 degrees will yield the greatest range. However, how do I show that angles that differ from 45 degrees by the same amount will yield the same range? For example, the range of a 40 degree angle will equal that of a 50 degree angle?

I know that the range of a projectile as a function of time is given by V^2 * sin(2ø) / g where V is the initial velocity and ø is the angle. I just don't know how to prove that the angle 45 + c will give give the same range as 45 - c, can anyone help me please?
 
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Oh I see,
since sin(α + β) = sin(α)cos(β) + cos(α)sin(β),
and cos(90) = 0, I am left with sin(a)cos(B) in both cases,
thanks for the help!
 
It is cos (c) in both cases. Sin of 90 is 1 and cos (-c)=cos (c).
 
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nasu said:
It is cos (c) in both cases. Sin of 90 is 1 and cos (-c)=cos (c).
But how this answers @bongobl's question?
bongobl said:
I just don't know how to prove that the angle 45 + c will give give the same range as 45 - c,
 

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